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  • TriviaFan

    Sorry, I have posted in the other thread but I have to disagree with ‘Reds.’

    That same year ‘Raiders of the Lost Ark’ was also nominated, and IMO that movie should have won the Oscar.

    As for ‘Shawshank Redemption,’ everyone loves this feel good movie, and it is indeed a great movie. But perhaps at the time it was a somewhat ‘dark’ picture based on a Stephen King work and ‘Forest’ was more ‘accessible’

    Same with ‘Pulp Fiction,’ which I believe should have won the Oscar over ‘Forest.’

    • Sam Dot

      No need to apologize! I wrote this list and submitted it late, which is why the other post was here first. They’re kind of two completely different lists, in a sense. Same subject, but obviously our biases differ a lot….

      Personally I loved Reds. Sure, as with most historical epics it became a little tedious at times, but you should probably go and watch it again; it’s held up much better than you’d think. As for Raiders, it deserves a shout out for its technical achievements, but do you really think that it would stand as a Best Picture winner? I’m not against action movie or anything- I mean The French Connection was one of the Academy’s better moments- but Raiders just doesn’t have enough deep substance or themes that the Academy could hold on their conscious as a good choice for the top prize.

      As for Forrest: that was a weak move on the Academy’s part. Pulp and Shawshank are masterpieces, and Forrest is just an oddity.

      Thanks for reading!

      • TriviaFan

        That’s the thing, ‘Raiders’ was probably viewed by Academy members as more ‘light weight fun’ than the serious and somber movies that had won the award in that time period (“Ordinary People,” “Gandhi,” etc.).

        And I personally agree that it may not be the “deepest” movie around, but there has never been a movie before or since that so captured my imagination as that movie. I must have seen it like 5 or 6 times in the theater, not an astronomical amount, but for me that was a lot. I was so into the movie that I even went out and bought a whip to emulate Indy. It’s like I went into that theater and was in another world for 2 hours, an absolute escape and pure joy at the craft and thrill of it. I certainly enjoy movies with deep themes, but I also love movies that capture my imagination no matter what the subject matter.

        I do agree strongly with Taxi Driver on the list. That is another movie that I saw when I was younger, and I’ve seen it dozens of times since and it’s one of those rare movies that you never get tired of watching, and in fact gets better with each viewing. In a weird way, I think the Travis Bickle character strikes a chord in today’s society, where people are becoming ever more alienated from each other as we advance technologically.

        • Viktor

          How about Raging Bull? Ordinary People was okay but Raging Bull…De Niro’s performance was a game changer. Joe Pesci and Cathy Moriarty (who was making her debut, I think) all turned in solid performances. And Scorsese was at the top of his game.

  • CamilleR

    Reds bored me to tears. Looking over the list of films up for Oscars that year, I’d have voted for Chariots. It’s a pretty good, heart-warming biopic about triumph over adversity which is the kind of film Oscars love.
    Raiders is a grand scale action adventure with awesome effects. The same could be said of Around the World in 80 Days when it came out. 80 Days didn’t hold up over time, and is always thrown up as an example of Oscar stupidity. Because of this I think Oscar voters are leery of voting for this kind of film.

    • Sam Dot

      Chariots bored me to tears. Reds was also a little slow, but I mean look at Stararo’s cinematography and the tour de force performances! That’s a quality film! And it certainly took balls to make something sympathetic for Communism during the fall of the Berlin Wall. Where as Chariots… I don’t know. I just wasn’t a fan of Chariots.

      As for 80 Days… man did that suck. They needed to vote for something more timeless like- lets say- Ten Commandments or The King and I or The Searchers.

      Thanks for reading!!!

  • Melissa

    I’d also put My Man Godfrey on the list. It lost out to another William Powell movie, The Great Zeifeld, but time has show Ziegfeld to be just a standard biopic while Godfrey is one of the best screwball comedies ever made.

  • Dennis

    “Treasure Of The Sierra Madre” is the greatest film of all time.

    • Sam Dot

      Thank you! So underrated!!

  • Dennis

    I can’t believe how we sometimes think alike. “Chariots” was the most boring movie of all time, edging out “The Sound Of Music” and any movie with Tom Cruise in it.

  • Jesus C

    Rocky deserved that Oscar… is an offense to think that Taxi driver was better. Only the story behind the production, Stallone and the effort to make that movie describes all the emotions put on the film.

    Thousands of people (or “dumbfound spectators”) around the world have been influenced by those movies you call “Razzie ridden legacy” or “predictably sympathetic sports movie”.

    Taxi Driver/ Network/ All The President’s Men were good movies. But Rocky was a GREAT movie and WON the Oscar.

    Get over it.

    • Sam Dot

      Well Sly’s filmography is certainly uplifting but I wouldn’t go as far as to say that they’re “good” (save Rambo). And Rocky was an emotionally charged underdog story with sincere intentions and Sly’s best performance to date- but Taxi Driver, Network, and All The President’s Men were sooooo much better.

      Thanks for reading!!

      • Kaiser

        Well, no disagreeing with you, I see.

  • Wally

    I think Star Wars, E.T., and Saving Private Ryan should have been on this list.

    • Sam Dot

      They’re in the honorable mentions. Behind Apocalypse Now, High Noon, and every Hitchcock movie.

      • Kaiser

        1977…Annie Hall wins best picture…and goes on to change cinema forever, begin an epic saga, inspire an entire generation, and have a massive impact on popular culture – oh wait, that was Star Wars. My bad.

  • Dennis

    Saving Private Ryan was a good movie but I believe “The Thin Red Line” with James Caviezel that came out the same year, without very much publicity, was head and shoulders above it.

    • TriviaFan

      Saving Private Ryan should definitely have won the best picture over ‘Shakespeare.’ Talk about influential, war movies have never been the same since ‘Ryan.’ I watched it in the theater and was blown away, and like many great movies, it never gets old watching it again and again.

      I was personally disappointed by ‘Thin Red Line.’ It definitely could have been one of the great ones, and had scenes of incredible power. But the movie IMO was undone by erratic pacing and unnecessary plot developments/scenes. Like the scene where the soldier gets a ‘dear john’ letter, or the over acted scene by Woody Harrelson. Speaking of which, the non stop parade of guest appearances by well known actors was distracting at moments. I remember watching this in the movie and some in the audience actually erupted in laughter when George Clooney showed up towards the end.

      • Dennis

        I laughed out at Tom Hanks playing a soldier..

  • Dodo

    I think Brokeback Mountain was snubbed!

  • bdog

    great list…but no honorable mention of “do the right thing”? not only did it not get nominated, but the “hokey” b.s “Driving miss daisy” won

    • Sam Dot

      Driving Miss Daisy is certainly one of the worst choices for Best Picture, and Do the Right Thing was far superior, but as an idealistic Best Picture winner- even though it’s on the list- it’s pretty far down the list.

  • Kaiser

    I could not agree more about Raiders. It fired my imagination as a kid. It is exuberant fun and one of the greatest action-adventure films ever made. But “fun” is not enough for the Academy, which demands films of great emotional or sociopolitical import.

  • hotandbothered

    “Shakespeare In Love” won OVER “Elizabeth’?!? Paltrow beat out Cate Blanchett for the Oscar? Many favors were pulled for those wins. Bunch of B.S.

  • Pegleg

    I’ve seen both Taxi Driver and Rocky. They were both great movies. It would’ve been a tough decision to decide the Best Picture that year.

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  • Scott

    “Up” was a masterpiece…not just of animation, but moviemaking. There is a reason that the Academy believed it deserved a nomination, and I think it should have won. Bravo Pixar.

  • Carol

    – The Third Man was not nominated for Best Picture so it’s unfair to inlcude it in this list, because if youre gonna make a list of the movies that should have won certain Oscars, you should pick the ones that were nominated. If anything, it should be in a list of the movies that should have been nominated.

    – It came out in 1949, and All about Eve in 1950, so had it been nominated, it would have lost to All the kings men, not All about Eve

    Other than that, I pretty much agree with you in almost every pick. Good list.

    • Sam Dot

      I also decided to include Best Director nominees. And it lost to All About Eve.

  • canadaeh

    Citizen Kane was based on Hearst and so great was Hearst’s influence very few newspapers would give Citizen Kane a good review. It was also Hearst who played up the dangers of marijuana to get it banned (he had heavily invested in paper pulp industry and hemp which was closely related to marijuana was a competitor).

  • P Smith

    “Dr. Strangelove” didn’t win an Oscar for the same reason prog rock bands aren’t in the hall of fame, and why cartoons weren’t seen as “adult” entertainment until Ralph Bakshi. There was a “ghettoization” of cartoons and comics as literature until the 1980s, utter hate for prog rock by Rolling Stone, and an intolerance for comedy by the “academy”.

    Only one comedy has ever made a major dent at the academy awards: “A Fish Called Wanda”. Before and since, the “academy” views comedy movies as second rate entertainment.

  • Rosie

    [“Sadly, The Third Man met its match with the classic Bette Davis flick; All About Eve. Since Mankiewicz got the homefield advantage, the Oscar was given to All About Eve. Reed would be later honored in 1969 with Best Director and Best Picture for his musical-film Oliver!”]

    I would have given the Oscar to “SUNSET BOULEVARD”. And “THE THIRD MAN” wasn’t nominated for Best Picture.

    I’ve seen both “CITIZEN KANE” and “HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY”. Both movies were downbeat in their own ways, but I have no problems with Ford’s movie winning the big prize.