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  1. SeanP at |

    “Taps” was filmed at VFMAC (it was called Bunker Hill Academy in the movie). The “Carolina Military Institute” (the fictional academy in the book and movie “The Lords of Discipline”) was based on The Citadel from which the author (see Pat Conroy above) graduated. No service academy would allow filming of “The Lords of Discipline” on their grounds due to it’s unflattering portrayal of academy life in the ’60s. I highly recommend both movies as well as the book.

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    1. skyla at |

      can females join the army too?!

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      1. Frank M at |

        My commanding officer is a female two star general. Does that answer your question? :)

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      2. Citadel man at |

        yes but we will hate you

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    2. NU grad at |

      There was some rumor that Norwich had some influence or part in the Lords of Discipline. I was told there are no train tracks behind those schools. There is a train track behind Norwich which has a lot of meaning there and is a place where the imaginary secret groups meet from time to time….572, 683

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  2. Mack at |

    You put the Naval Academy ahead of West Point?!?! BLASPHEMY!!

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    1. SeanP at |

      Anchors Aweigh, my boys
      Anchors Aweigh
      ;-)

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      1. Dennis at |

        SeanP–Right On!

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    2. Lee Standberry at |

      i fully admit that West Point is a great institution. However, Go Navy! What can you expect from a Marine?

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      1. John B at |

        Please look into whether Cadets and Midshipmen of the U.S. services academies are considered on ‘active duty’ while in their respective academies. I do not think they are.

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        1. Donna K at |

          USMMA midshipmen arein the US Naval Reserve, the only acadmy with a military commitment while in school

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          1. Joe at |

            Cadets and Midshipmen at USNA, USMA, USAFA are on active duty. Ask any one of them to show you their military ID, its an active duty ID.

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    3. Bob Good at |

      Hi-
      I wish you guys would post the top secondary military schools of all time. I think Peacock Military Academy would be in there. Many secondary military schools closed down during and after the Viet Nam war. General Dwight David Eisenhower coached the Peacock Military Academy Kadets to a state championship during his stay at Fort Sam Houston in 1915. He remembered the school fondly even while President of the United States. He went to the game between Texas Military Institute in 1962. General Douglas MacArthur had graduated from there in 1898. Both men were in attendance at that game. It was a 100 year rivalry. Peacock was one of only five military academies to recieve a superior rating by the National Defense Cadet Corp in the 1970′s. It was founded in 1894 by Wesley Peacock in San Antonio, Texas Wesley was a graduate of the University of Georgia where he was a member of Sigma Alpha Epsilon Fraternity. Thank you.

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  3. sam at |

    that Is not a pic of TAMU, they have one ugly campus!

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    1. Jason Iannone at |

      You are correct sir! There were two West Point pics in there. But now there is only one, and a TAMU pic is in its place. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

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  4. truth at |

    There is world outside US too. The Globe contains 196 countries, but for some people the world means USA. Show military schools of other countries too. Sooo pretty dumb article.

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    1. TopTenz Master at |

      Please read the introduction to the list. It plainly states, “I’ve confined myself to American, post-secondary institutions…”. If you want to write a list about Non-U.S. military schools we would gladly review it for publication. You would be the first commenter who complained about a list to then write a list in response. I’m counting on you! Otherwise, read the introduction paragraph first BEFORE complaining. You will usually see criteria for the list in that opening.

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    2. Josh E at |

      You shouldnt even need to read the paragraph. THE NAME OF THE ARTICLE IS TOP 10 MILITARY SCHOOLS IN AMERICA!!!! Learn to read. If it says IN AMERICA, obviously schools outside of the United States WILL NOT BE INCLUDED. Common Sense, not so common obviously.

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  5. Tim at |

    Ahem, where’s Sandhurst? This internationally recognised British Military Academy attracts students from all over the world, and is better known and respected than any American institution.

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    1. TopTenz Master at |

      Tim, the author focused only on American military schools and said so in the introductory paragraph. If you would like to write a list on the top 10 military schools in the UK or the world, we welcome submissions.

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      1. Tim at |

        Apologies to the author, I didn’t read the intro.

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  6. Jonathan Reiter at |

    What about Kingston RMC? Royal Roads RMC?
    Those institutions produce Officers….

    What’s Canada? Chopped Liver?

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    1. TopTenz Master at |

      Wow, does anyone read the intro paragraph? The author only included military schools in the United States. Feel free to submit a list that targets other countries.

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      1. Dennis at |

        Yes,there is the world famous French Military Academy, Battre En Retraite Précipitamment;—The academy symbol is a white flag.

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    2. Josh E at |

      What is the name of the article?

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  7. FMH at |

    While this is easily one of the most boring lists here, it’s very well written.

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    1. TopTenz Master at |

      I was thinking the same thing about your comment. ;-) I kid, I kid. In all seriousness, I requested this list because we have two schools here in Virginia and I know many people who attended VMI and I have friends whose children will be attending military school (on in the UK possibly) and so my interest was piqued. I agree this is a niche topic, but so are many others on this site. I’m sure military school graduates will enjoy this list.

      But to be fair, here is a list most people will enjoy, an oldie, but a goodie as they say – http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-weirdest-cia-programs.php

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      1. hokiesg at |

        There are actually three. VMI, the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets and the Virginia Women’s Military Institute in Staunton, VA.

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  8. cdawg31 at |

    “Valley Forge is one of only five military junior colleges and the only such junior college that offers a direct commission into the army after only two years of study (through the army’s Early Commissioning Program)”

    This is incorrect….the New Mexico Military Institute is also a high school/JC that offers the Early Commissioning Program that provides a direct commission after obtaining a two-year Associates degree.

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  9. cdawg31 at |

    In fact, a quick Google search confirmed that the Early Commission Program is available for students at all five Military Junior Colleges

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      I stand corrected. I relied on information directly related to Valley Forge and it was articulated as such. A valuable lesson learned here is to verify sources. Thanks :)

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  10. WHy? at |

    A top flight list. I it found very amusing, reading the remarks from a number of commentators who “skimmed” the list without reading the intro which plainly stated the list criteria. Sometimes you can’t win ;-)

    Even though I am a citizen of the US, I’d welcome the insight of those who might present a list of similar academies in their countries. Again a tip of the hat to the author.
    Well done.

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  11. rajimus123 at |

    tripe paid for by the military most likely

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    1. TopTenz Master at |

      Yep, you found us out. Toptenz.net is funded by the military.

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  12. Frank M at |

    There is an obvious bias from our former Marine. As a retired Army Officer, I will admit to a bias towards West Point. However, based on the history, alumni and traditions West Point has to rank number one. Also, our author has shown his lack of knowledge of Army history. George S. Patton, Jr. attained the rank of General (four stars) prior to his death. There were only five Army five stars; Dwight D. Eisenhower, Gearge C. Marshall, Douglas MacArthur, Omar N. Brdley and Henry H. Arnold (Redesignated as General of the Air Force 7 May 1949). But a good list nonetheless.

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      You are correct sir – however, that was a typo on my part and not a historical knowledge error. Could catch.

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    2. Tyler Burke at |

      There were six Army five stars; On January 19, 1976, Washington was posthumously promoted to five stars and General of the Armies of the United StatesThe resolution stated that Washington’s seniority had rank and precedence over all other grades of the Armed Forces, past or present, effectively making Washington the highest ranked U.S. officer of all time.

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      1. Frank M at |

        A slight correction Mr. Burke. Genral Washington was not promoted to five star rank via that proclamation but was that, “… the grade of General of the Armies of the United States is established, such grade to have rank and precedence over all other grades of the Army, past or present.” As the five star rank is titled “General of the Army” it was generally assumed that this meant that General Washington would hold “six star” rank. However no formal insignia was designated. One other general did hold the title of “General of the Armies” and that was John J. Pershing. By order of rank and precedence he outranked all of the WWII five stars although he never wore more than four. His proposed insignia was four gold stars and, while there is a portrait showing him wearing them, there is no proof that this was actually the case.

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  13. Dennis at |

    The Naval Academy is,of course, number 1. And if you want to talk about rank, Fleet Admiral Nimitz outranked Eisenhower, Marshall and MacArthur. That’s just the way it was.

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    1. Frank M at |

      Once again our esteemed author/former Marine missed the point. The point was that GEN Patton never attained a five star rank. Additionally, Fleet Admiral Nimitz (date of rank 19 Dec 1944)did NOT outrank Marshall (date of rank 16 Dec 1944)or MacArthur (date of rank 18 Dec 1944). He did outrank Eisenhower (date of rank 20 Dec 1944). Fleet Admiral Leahy was the senior if the five stars with a date of rank of 15 Dec 1944. However, before you begin patting yourself on the back, it should be noted that General of the Armies (notice the plural) John J. Pershing was still alive at this time. Secretary of War Henry Stimson stated, “It appears the intent of the Army was to make the General of the Armies senior in grade to the General of the Army. I have advised Congress that the War Department concurs in such proposed action.” Section 7, Public Law 78-482 put that into law. So, other than George Washington, who was awarded the rank of General of the Armies during the Bicentennial, the senior military man in the history of the United States was, drum roll please, an Army Officer!

      I still love the Marines though.

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      1. Lee Standberry at |

        Bravo! and i love the Army dogfaces as well! lol

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  14. TriviaFan at |

    Fascinating article. I only heard of Norwich through the internet ads for its online programs. Did not know of its distinguished history.

    Also didn’t know that Texas A&M was a service academy.

    As for #1, I was an enlisted sailor in the Navy years ago. When I was going through what they called ‘power school’ back when there was a base in Orlando, Florida, I along with about 7 other students applied for the ‘BOOST’ program. It was a program designed for those who did not have a strong academic program, but wanted to apply to the Naval Academy. After going through the ‘BOOST’ program you were guaranteed a slot in the Academy. I for some reason decided not to go forward with the application, much to my regret to this day. All of the other guys ended up being accepted (don’t know how they did). Did my 6 years and got out.

    I think another interesting topic would be top 10 hardest military training programs/schools in America (as in specialized schools and training such as Airborne school and the like, not boot camp/basic training).

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      I actually thought special training schools is what toptenz was asking for until the boss clarified what he was looking for. I agree, however, that that would be an interesting list – especially with America’s emphasis on special operation forces these days. I also like the idea of doing a list on the top international military academies. What does the Webmaster think about this?

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    2. Josh E at |

      Texas A&M isnt a service acadamy, however it is a Senior Military College, meaning it has a Corps of Cadets. There are 6 SMCs.

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    3. Gary at |

      Norwich is the birthplace of ROTC with lots of history and only recently has branched out to other areas with civilians on campus etc… Texas A&M is a great school also that has always had civilians I think and the corps is but a part of the school I think…

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  15. bmac at |

    Interesting tidbit, Grant was the equivalent of a 6 star general, as he commanded all ground AND naval forces. The only other person comparable to that is Washington. Also, alumni under West Point could be “Basically every general in the Civil War”.

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    1. Frank M at |

      I must respectfully disagree. General Grant was “Commanding General of the United States Army”. Given the size and composition of the Army at the time, I could see an argument for five star rank, but not six. He did not command the Naval Forces. At the beginning of the Civil War the highest Navy Rank was Captain. The quiet and reliable David G. Farragut was the Navy’s first flag officer and more followed. Charles Wilkes, John Dahlgren, Samuel Phillips Lee and the self-promoting David Dixon Porter. The Secretary of the Navy, while a capable man, was not a brilliant strategist. Neither were his admirals. That task fell to Abraham Lincoln, a man who at the outset of the war admitted to knowing little about ships.

      Disappointed by the lethargy of his senior naval officers on the scene, he stepped in and personally directed an amphibious assault on the Virginia coast, a successful operation that led to the capture of Norfolk. The man who knew “but little of ships” had transformed himself into one of the greatest naval strategists of his age.

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  16. Patrick Seiber at |

    Quick note, Dr. Gates was president of Texas A&M University—not a graduate from there (though he may have an honorary degree from there by now). Aggies gladly claim him, but wanted to make sure you had the factoid. If you’re looking for a couple of famous alumni from the University, you could add singer Lyle Lovett or Commander of the 2nd Ranger Battalion James Earl Rudder (led the Rangers up Point du Hoc on D-Day).

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  17. Ken J at |

    I really enjoyed reading this list but I would like to correct one really small detail. We’re called Merchant Mariners not Merchant “Marines.” Last week I was wearing my Merchant Marine hoodie in the grocery store and the cashier asked “what’s the difference between the Merchant Marines and regular Marines?” I told him “regular Marines kill people on purpose, we kill them on accident.”

    Also, I’m a Coast Guard veteran and it’s nice to see them listed as well, we often get left out.

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      Its unfortunate that the Merchant Marines and the Coast Guard are often excluded from the conversations regarding the contributions of the military to national security. While not a military formation per se, the merchant marine plays a vital role in the ability of the regular forces to do their jobs. And the coast guard – well, you can’t say enough about the incredible job those men and women perform everyday. It’s not all search and rescue stuff – this is i know and appreciate. Love the comment too! Thanks!

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  18. Susan B at |

    You have also overlooked North Georgia College and State University which hosts the Military College of Georgia. Their Corps of Cadets is around 800. They are one of the top Army ROTC programs in the nation and are also a senior military college. I would argue that their program is hands above some of the military schools listed in this article.

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  19. Lee Standberry at |

    Not so much overlooked as I could only select 10 and there are a lot of good choices, including North Georgia. I’m sure alumni from the schools listed could pose a counter argument for you :) . But i do agree, that your school has an excellent military educational program.

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    1. Susan B at |

      Here are the stats from LDAC comparing the senior military colleges and their successes. You can see that North Georgia gave Norwich, Texas A&M, VMI and The Citadel a run for their money. But I suppose it can remain a little known gem. :)

      http://www.northgeorgia.edu/uploadedFiles/Enrollment/Cadet_Admissions/LDAC%20Comparison%20Aug%202010.pdf

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      1. Josh E at |

        North Georgia might be a great school, but it’s Corps is relatively small and it only offers Army ROTC. TAMU’s numbers are over 2,000 this year and it hosts all four branches of the military. It also had more officers in WWII than any other school, including West Point and the Naval Academy. 6 Medal of Honor winners from WWII, a friendly student body, ranked high nationally in academics. A Military College isnt just about the Army. Education plays a factor as well.

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        1. Josh E at |

          7 Medal of Honor recipients, I apologize for the mistake.

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      2. Josh E at |

        Also how many cadets, on average go to LDAC from North Georgia? Im not trying to diss them, I’m legitimately asking. I see you have 20+% overall E’s, but if there is a low number of cadets going, then getting higher percentage of E’s is implied. Think about it, lets say you guys have 20% get E’s, well if you only send 60 people, that is 12 out of 60, whereas TAMU might send 100, 15% of 100 is 15, so we still have more E’s than you. http://www.northgeorgia.edu/NorthGeorgiaNews/articles.aspx?id=4294980992 says 78, so that means 9 people got E’s whereas TAMU will send at least 114 from my class, so 15% of that is 17.

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  20. PJH at |

    I’m a grad from VFMA (high school). Great school.

    General Scwartzkoff grad from there and West Point.
    General M. Linnington my roommate at VF also grad from West Point and was the commandant of cadets at West Point. I believe he is now on Gen Petrais (sp) staff in Afgan.

    Go VFMA class of 76′

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    1. Buck Scholderer at |

      Immediate past CNO Gary Roughouse is also a Valley Forge graduate. Gen Yoesock who commanded ground troops under Stormin Norman was also a VF graduate.
      It’s good to see Valley Forge included in such stellar company!
      Buck58D

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      1. Keith Stanton at |

        Besides those already mentioned VFMA also graduated former Senator Warren Rudman-NH, Former Puerto Rico Gov.Rafael Colon, Author JD Salinger, Simeon Rylski, Former PM of Bulgaria, and countless other sport, business, and political leaders. Not bad for a school started in 1928 by a then Major in the Pennsylvania National Guard Milton Baker. Our Motto? ”
        Courage, Honor, Conquer”

        If you ever get a chance, attend a church service in the Chapel named St Cornelius the Centurion where each Sunday they read the names of those Alumni .” . . . “…who gave their lives for the right to be called Americans…” It is quite moving.

        Keith Stanton
        Class of 69

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    2. Bob Good at |

      General Marshall and Stonewall Jackson were from VMI. Thank you.

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  21. David at |

    There are several famous Ags that were left out of there. Robert Gates, while the former university president, didn’t graduate from A&M. The following, however, are former students of Texas A&M:

    -Von Miller (Linebacker for the Denver Broncos)
    -Ryan Tannehill (starting QB for the Miami Dolphins)
    -Gene Stallings
    -Stacey Sykora (U.S. Olympic volleyball team libero until 2008)
    -GEN Patrick Gamble
    -GEN Hal Hornberg
    -LTG James Hollingsworth
    -LTG Bernard Schriever (whom the AFB in Colorado Springs is named after)
    -Neal Boortz
    -Roland Martin (CNN)
    -Roger Creager
    -Robert Earl Keen
    -Lyle Lovett
    -Lowery Mays (Founder of Clear Channel Communications)
    -H.B. Zachry (Founder of Zachry construction)
    -Mike Fossum (Astronaut)
    -Red Duke (Surgeon)
    etc.

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    1. Josh E at |

      Tannahill isnt that good honestly…

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    2. Gary at |

      Look TAM is a great school and huge but your list is mostly civilians… you must have more military distinguished grads I would think…

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  22. Robert Owens at |

    While this article is informative, I am afraid you got some facts about Texas A&M incorrect and left out some others. The university ,then known as Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas, was established in 1876, not 1871, meaning that Aggies have been fighting since 1880. The current size of the Corps of Cadets is over 2200 right now, consisting of 3 Brigades, soon to be 3 Wings and Regiments (within 1 year), Corps Staff, and the Band. And I am shocked that you left out our 7 Medal of Honor recipients! While the rest is still good, I feel obligated to chide you for not researching my university of choice very well.

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      The legislative act that established the school was passed in 1871, but instruction didn’t begin until 1876; which is the date i opted for. And the composition of the Corps has changed since I originally wrote the list, so you are correct about that.

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    2. Gary at |

      yes TAM is big and “old” but… Norwich was founded in 1819 by the former west point super that said west point was unconstitutional… long story…

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  23. A&M Cavjock at |

    “Valley Forge is also the only military school in the nation that maintains a mounted battalion…” as a member of Parsons Mounted Cavalry at Texas A&M, I’m going to have to question that one.
    I suppose technically, PMC is not a battalion, as it is a good bit smaller than 300 members, but I assume the battalions at Valley Forge are also pretty small, given that they only have 600 students and 3 battalions. Parsons has nearly 50 cadets from units across the Corps who regularly train with over 40 horses. We also maintain an artillery half section with 6 inch field gun, limber, and support wagon. We do mounted drill and maneuvers, saber drill, and recently started mounted shooting. We ride in to every game that the Corps marches in to and fire the cannons at the game when the Aggies score.

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  24. Randolph Duke at |

    You have got to be kidding. Texas A&M ranked higher than USAFA, USCGA, VMI and Citadel!?!?! TAMU graduates less than 200 ROTC members a year. While its Corps of Cadets numbers some 1850 (give or take) approximately only 42% of those “cadets” are active in ROTC training. The rest are “fake Army” and are just playing dress up. Are ANY members at USAFA just playing dress up and not on their way to a commission?

    TAMU and its Corps of Cadets are running jokes in the State of Texas. We will add this article to the list of running jokes. TAMU is NOT a military academy. It is a university with an ROTC program.

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    1. Aunt Aggie at |

      …jealous mjch????

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    2. Josh E at |

      Since when is 42% of 1850, 200? And you are mistaken. TAMU has 4 branches, not just Army. I think you are getting us mixed up with university of texas’s ROTC program. 7 Medals of Honor, 14,123 officers in WWII (thats more than West Point and the USNA) Get over yourself, take your whining to someone else. There is more to being a Cadet at TAMU than playing dress up. It’s funny that you seem so angry about us being higher than the USAFA. It’s ok man, be mad, we do more than you think we do, and we dont need your approval.

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      1. Randolph Duke at |

        200 a year for 4 years would be 800. of the 1800 “cadets” in the Corps at TAMU, about 800 of them are actually destined to be commissioned. 800 is somewhere around 42% of 1800. I guess one of the things they don’t teach at TAMU is math, because the numbers i just gave you aren’t all that complicated.

        The officers TAMU put out during WW2 were overwhelmingly 90 wonders than went through the OCS program. Comparing 90 wonders to 4 year commissioned officers and claiming superiority to the academies is just another of the lies TAMU graduates throw around to give themselves some sense of self importance. Notre Dame and Michigan State both put out more officers during WW2 because their OCS programs were larger than that at TAMU.

        And for the record, while TAMU puts out between 175 and 200 officers a year through their ROTC program, Texas puts out between 120 and 140 on average. TAMU isn’t all that far ahead of Texas and, as a percentage of the student body, the two schools have practically identical ROTC programs. the difference is that Texas doesn’t have fake corps members wearing uniforms but not going through ROTC training.

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        1. Josh E at |

          There are 4 ROTC programs at TAMU, Army itself produces at least 100 per year, so your numbers are flawed. TAMU produces more officers than any other school every year, so despite what you may think, TAMU is obviously doing something right. Also where are you getting 90 officers from WWII? TAMU put out more officers that were in WWII, also many students dropped out of TAMU to enlist for WWII. 14, 123 to be exact as I stated above, ranging from 2nd LT to Generals.

          As far as your comment about fake Corps Members, I ask you, what is fake about them? They dont commission, but they are leaders in their own rights. Several are company commanders, brigade, wing, or regiment commanders, or company first sergeants of brigade sergeants major. Many are leaders in student organizations. They take leadership classes and graduate with a leadership certificate. They go through the same Corps experience as those that choose to commission, they are also required to take at least 2 years of ROTC. The Corps of Cadets and ROTC are not the same thing.
          Also I like that you are angry about “fake cadets” at TAMU, but ALL SMCs have cadets in their Corps that dont commission. Norwich doesnt commission all of its members in their Corps, so are they fake cadets as well? Be as mad as you want, statistically TAMU is one of the best SMCs and its Corps is considersed one of the best.

          Also your arguement about 42% in ROTC is flawed. EVERY freshman and sophomore in the Corps participates in ROTC. They choose to participate in ROTC after they become juniors. I know right now there are 145 cadets from the class of 2014 that are in Army ROTC, so there are more than 200 people in ROTC overall from the class of 2014. as for 2016, there are 800+ cadets in ROTC, and for 2015 there are 700+ cadets. So at all times, there are more Cadets participating in ROTC than those “fake” cadets.

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          1. Mari Powers at |

            Actually, Mr. Duke’s numbers aren’t so off base. According to the strength report on CMS, last updated today (10/21/12): 158/409 seniors are contract (39%), 261/524 juniors (50%), and of course, all the black belts 1293/1293 for a total of 1712/2226 (77%) of all cadets being involved with the ROTC, but only 45% when you look at the 933 junior and senior cadets (the one’s who have the option to not participate in ROTC). One thing that these numbers probably don’t account for is our prior/currently enlisted cadets (18 in D Co plus a few scattered about other outfits) and people contracted outside of the ROTC program (such as PLC Marine contracts) of which I know that there are a fair number, but don’t know if there’s any compiled data on the subject.
            It’s my impression that Corps of Cadets in general tend to be more intensive than ROTC programs. The Aggie Corps requires living in Corps dorms (with a few exceptions, there are currently 30 day cadets), which ensures that you’re dealing with informal Corps training almost 24 hours/day, doing outfit training at least 6 times/week, marching into morning and evening chow, wearing a uniform whenever in academic buildings, march-ins and attendance to all home football games (part of acting as Keepers of the Spirit), taking military training and leadership classed every semester (on top of your normal courses), all in addition to any training/FTXs/briefs that a cadet’s ROTC may do. Yes, we may have fewer people going directly on to be officers in the military, but our training is far from fake and far from a joke.

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        2. David at |

          Actually, “Mr. Duke’s” comments are completely off base when you actually know how the accession and commission process works.

          DoD caps each service on how many they are allowed to commission each year as Lieutenants/Ensigns. Across the services, they are then divided into three categories:

          -Service Academies (33-35%)
          -ROTC (55-60%)
          -OCS/PLC (remainder)

          The service academies’ class sizes are set in order to accommodate their piece of the pie. The “ROTC” numbers equal the TOTAL NUMBER OF ROTC ACCESSIONS ACROSS ALL SCHOOLS.

          What does this mean? Let’s say that in any one year, the Army is allowed to commission 3,000 Lieutenants. Here’s how this would break down:

          West Point Seniors: 1,000 (33%)
          ROTC: 1,850 (62%)
          OCS/Direct Commission: 150 (5%)

          That 1,850 is then spread out across every ROTC program in the country, to include universities in U.S. territories. Let’s say that between December – August of any year group commissioning that A&M commissions 65 Army 2LTs. That’s just over 3.5% of THE ENTIRE ROTC ALLOCATION. Let’s then assume that these numbers are similar (55-65) across every senior military college. That’s an aggregate of about 360 2LTs out of 1,850. That would then mean that, of the entire nationwide allocation of ROTC contracts (Active, Reserve, and Guard – oh, did I forget to mention that only ROTC programs and direct commissions supply Guard and Reserve Officers?), the six Senior Military Colleges produce almost 20%. That means the remaining umpteen ROTC programs combined produce 80%. If you assume about 400-500 other programs at the minimum, and that there’s an EQUAL allocation, (which we know that isn’t the case) you would then assume that every other school gets 3-5 slots per year…or less than 8% of what A&M produces.

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    3. Lee Standberry at |

      That’s a pretty harsh assessment

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      1. Mark R at |

        Duke is notorious for trolling the Internet to find ways to insult Texas A&M. He’s a backer of all things burnt orange who spends most of his time on ShaggyBevo (the Texas football fan site) stirring up the base.

        He’s upset that Texas A&M got into the SEC and Texas wasn’t invited.

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    4. Josh E at |

      The majority of cadets are enrolled in ROTC because as a SMC all freshman and sophomores must be enrolled. 2016 has 800+, 2015 has 700+, and I personally know that there are 145 cadets from 2014 enrolled in Army ROTC. Im not sure on the numbers from 2013.

      Also those “fake” cadets are still leaders, whether they are enrolled in ROTC or not. They hold leadership positions in the Corps and in student organizations. They are required to take leadership classes and they graduate with a leadership certificate. I know plenty of great cadets that are considered “drill and ceremony” cadets, who are brigade sergeants major and commanders.

      Also when you said that Texas cadets arent fake. Texas has ROTC programs, meaning that the cadets are seeking commissions, however according to the texas army rotc page says that you can join without a scholarship. Also they arent considered a SMC meaning that they dont have a Corps of Cadets. Your argument is flawed because you are trying to compare an ROTC program with a Corps of Cadets. The Corps and ROTC are not the same by any means. Norwich has a Corps of Cadets, but they also have cadets that dont commission.

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    5. kevin kelly at |

      Duke, that conspicuous chip on your shoulder is affecting your judgment. I’m not sure where it comes from, but you clearly don’t know much about TAMU. The stats are the stats, but most of what matters about TAMU can’t be reduced to statistics. I was commissioned thru USAF ROTC TAMU. Someone mentioned TAMU has girls. Amen. There is no greater recruiting attraction for young men between 18 and 22. My wife of 28 years (and still smokin’ hot) was 18 yrs old when I met her at TAMU. My brother went to USAFA. My son went to USAFA (b/c he was too small to play offensive line at TAMU). None of us are still in the military. But, my cousin attended that military powerhouse of S.W Texas State Univ., where he lived a life of sloppy hedonistic civilian leisure (and no doubt had a boatload of fun). He attended the USAF 90-day wonder program, became an officer and is now a Brig. Gen. commanding an F-15 Wing. So, my vote for best Military College goes to SWTS. What time proves is that its the man (or woman), not the school, defines military skill.

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    6. Booze at |

      Randolph Duke has issues. He spends countless hours scouring the Internet for anything related to Texas A&M so he can find something negative or trash the comments section. He takes obsession to new heights. Kathy Bates character in Misery doesn’t even come close to his obsession level. Editing wiki pages, digging through website after website for information about the origin of the 12th Man, or anything else Aggie related in order to find ways to discredit TAMU. Dude needs to be in a psych ward, stat. If you know him personally, please get him professional help.

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  25. Randolph Duke at |

    TAMU may have sent more officers to serve in WW2 than est point or Annapolis, but only because at the time TAMU was hosting an Officer Candidate School. The overwhelming majority of the officers TAMU claims from WW2 were 90 day wonders, not 4 year commissioned officers. And, while TAMU sent more officers to serve in WW2 than did West Point or Annapolis, is sent less than Notre Dame or Michigan State which also hosted OCS 90 day wonder programs but did so on a larger scale than TAMU. At the end of the day, counting the number of “cadets” at TAMU is a joke because the overwhelming majority of them are not enrolled in the ROTC program. The are just playing dress up.

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    1. Robert Owens at |

      Incorrect. When the war broke out, the university changed the program from a 4 year track to a 3 year track in order to meet the new demand for military officers. Many Aggies were already in the military at the time, graduates in the civilian world applied to OCS or enlisted and some students dropped out to enlist and get in the fight sooner. The 20,229 includes Aggies from classes as early as 1915 all the way to 1945. And included in the school curriculum was specific branch training which reduced the amount of training needed before deployment, so calling them ’90 day wonders’ is a flat out lie! I don’t know what your damage is, but get that stick out of your sore and sorry ass before you make more of a fool of yourself by spewing out malicious lies about a school that has done more for this country and the world than you would want to admit!

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    2. Josh E at |

      False, the overwhelming majority of them ARE enrolled in an ROTC program.

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      1. Josh E at |

        While TAMU had an OCS during WWII, those that went were trained.

        As far as the “fake cadets” that you are so angry about. Even though there are many cadets that choose not to commission, they arent just playing dress up. Many of them are leaders in the Corps or in student organizations. Those cadets take leadership classes and they graduate with a leadership certificate. They do more than just wear the uniform.

        Also since TAMU is a Senior Military College, ALL cadets are required to take at least 2 years of ROTC. Therefore your argument that the majority of the Corps arent enrolled in ROTC is false. The class of 2016 has 800+ cadets, all enrolled in one of the ROTC programs. The class of 2015 has 700+, all enrolled. I personally know that the class of 2014 has 145 cadets enrolled in Army ROTC, so there has to be more than 200 cadets in ROTC. I dont personally know how many cadets in the class of 2013 are enrolled in ROTC. So with a total of approx. 2200 cadets, at least 1645 are enrolled in an ROTC this school year, so once again your argument of “At the end of the day, counting the number of “cadets” at TAMU is a joke because the overwhelming majority of them are not enrolled in the ROTC program.” is false.

        And as for saying “the difference is that Texas doesn’t have fake corps members wearing uniforms but not going through ROTC training” Texas isnt a Senior military college, so they dont have a Corps of Cadets. However, according to http://www.utexas.edu/cola/depts/arotc/general/FAQ.php, anyone can join ROTC, regardless of a scholarship. You cant compare a SMC’s Corps of Cadets to a regular universities ROTC program because a Corps of Cadets is not the same as ROTC, the two are not the same.

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  26. Carol Livingston at |

    To the author: you were not kidding when you admitted to “a slight bias with this selection” in your choice of the number one military school. West Point offers 45 academic majors and though Navy may have 45 Rhodes Scholars, West Point has 87 Rhodes Scholars, ranking fourth behind Harvard, Yale and Princeton. 74 Medal of Honor recipients graduated from West Point. Three graduates went to the moon. West Point also welcomed the first cadet of African American descent, Henry Flipper, in 1873, 72 years before Navy. West Point also boasts three Heisman Trophy recipients to Navy’s two. GO ARMY! BEAT NAVY!

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      @carol – yep, the product of being a Marine I’m afraid. That said, I wouldn’t take anything away from West Point at all – its a very fine institution that produces top notch dog face officers. :)

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    2. RLP_USMA_08 at |

      Carol- You have to have had a son or daughter that went to West Point… USMA parents are always the first to take up for us and defend us. Thank you for everything you (West Point parents) did while we were there. I think Army’s qualifications were slighted a little bit myself- thank you for helping us out with that one.

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  27. Josh E at |

    @ Randolph Duke The majority of cadets are enrolled in ROTC because as a SMC all freshman and sophomores must be enrolled. 2016 has 800+, 2015 has 700+, and I personally know that there are 145 cadets from 2014 enrolled in Army ROTC. Im not sure on the numbers from 2013.

    Also those “fake” cadets are still leaders, whether they are enrolled in ROTC or not. They hold leadership positions in the Corps and in student organizations. They are required to take leadership classes and they graduate with a leadership certificate. I know plenty of great cadets that are considered “drill and ceremony” cadets, who are brigade sergeants major and commanders.

    Also when you said that Texas cadets arent fake. Texas has ROTC programs, meaning that the cadets are seeking commissions, however according to the texas army rotc page says that you can join without a scholarship. Also they arent considered a SMC meaning that they dont have a Corps of Cadets. Your argument is flawed because you are trying to compare an ROTC program with a Corps of Cadets. The Corps and ROTC are not the same by any means. Norwich has a Corps of Cadets, but they also have cadets that dont commission.

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  28. Steve-O at |

    Why in the hell is A&M in front of USAFA? Are you serious? Is it because it’s older? Older is not better. I can stand the other 2 being in front of USAFA, but A&M? What the hell are you smoking?

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      I wouldn’t exactly consider TAMU ‘better’ than the USAFA, but in relative terms the Air Force Academy is a lot younger. TAMU, as a result has a longer track record of providing armed forces officers, which is something I kept in mind for the criteria for this list. It’s not a slight on USAFA at all – all of these schools offer great educational and leadership training.

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      1. Gary at |

        Nothing to do with age… USAFA is getting way to political… and has lost some of it’s focus IMO… private institutions don’t have to deal with the corrupt political appointment process…

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  29. Annette Walker at |

    Hi. How do I get in touch with the author, Lee Standberry? I can’t find an email address anywhere on the site.

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  30. John R at |

    What about the Corps of Cadets at Virginia Tech?

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  31. 2013s at |

    This list is bs. It says Texas A&M’s ” corps of cadets is the largest in the country (with exception of the service academies), numbering about 1,887 cadets” but clearly states The Citadel has over 2,000 cadets. If the facts can’t line up then this list holds no weight.

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    1. 2013s at |

      There is also a copious amount of wrong information presented here.

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      1. Lee Standberry at |

        The problem, as i’ve discovered since writing this list is that a lot of the information that i depended on is derived from the institution themselves. Unfortunately, it has become apparent that some institutions are not beyond using terms that are not wholly accurate. That said, I should have double checked some of these facts from secondary sources, so that’s a error on my part. So if you see something that is in error, just point it out. Thanks for reading.

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        1. 2013s at |

          “Both of these groups attend evening classes and are separated from the main body of students.” – Only civilians are separated from cadets. Veterans and current enlisted personnel attend classes with the Corps.
          “The Citadel has the distinction of maintaining the largest Corps of Cadets outside of the service academies.” – Both el Cid and Texas A&M cannot hold this title, has to be one or the other.
          “Cadets are expected to stand regular formations and they march to all meals.” – Upperclass do not march to dinner.
          “Cadets are required to live on campus and are only permitted to go out on weekends (though they must return to the campus at specified times). In addition, a cadet be married.” – We are allowed to leave during the week. Seniors have leave on Tuesday and Dean’s List/Gold Stars can leave on Wednesday. Cadets are NOT allowed to be married.
          “Unlike the service academies, however, cadets, while required to participate in seven years of ROTC training, are not required to enter the military upon graduation, though they are offered commissions in the armed forces (and about 40% accept)” – We go through 4 years of ROTC classes. You have to go through a selection process to even be considered for a commission and even then few get one. Most cadets have received a 4 year scholarship before they show up here. Only about 30% go on to the military after graduation.
          Also Valley Forge admitted women into the college around 2007. Cadets do not mostly run the Corps there. I barely had any say so when I was a Battalion Commander there. It is predominately run by the Tacs. They want the Corps to run the Corps but it is just never going to happen with the current mess there. There was only around 598 cadets back in 2010 and over 300 of those were in the college. Now there are barley 400. VF is also not the only junior college to offer ECP. However it still is a great school and I’m proud to be an alumnus.

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      2. Lee Standberry at |

        And, I should point, some info has just changed over time.

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    2. Lee Standberry at |

      Texas A&M’s corp of cadet currently numbers over 2300

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    3. TopTenz Master at |

      I assume you like to throw your babies out with the bath water, yes?

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      1. 2013s at |

        Oh clearly….

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  32. 2013s at |

    “Life for the Corps of Cadets is pretty similar to cadet life elsewhere. Typically, cadets have physical training twice a day, along with drills, leadership training and, of course, their normal academic classes. Cadets are expected to stand regular formations and they march to all meals. Cadets are required to live on campus and are only permitted to go out on weekends (though they must return to the campus at specified times). In addition, a cadet be married.

    Unlike the service academies, however, cadets, while required to participate in seven years of ROTC training, are not required to enter the military upon graduation, though they are offered commissions in the armed forces (and about 40% accept). ”

    We only go through 4 years of ROTC classes. Upperclass only march to breakfast and dinner. Cadets cannot be married. You have to go through a tough selection process to even be considered eligible for a commission. Only about 30% go into the military after graduation.

    Valley Forge is not the only military junior college to offer ECP. They have allowed women into the college since around 2007. The cadets do NOT run the Corps. It is mostly Tac run. I barely had any say when I was Battalion Commander. The size of the Corps has not been 600 since 2010-2011. There are barely 400 now.

    And Texas A&M has a little over 2250 not over 2300. I just checked.

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      Brig. General Ramirez stated to me “The Corps at Texas A&M is now comprised of almost 2,300 cadets.” Which i quoted as “over 2300″. To be absolutely accurate, he said ‘almost’ which would account for the exact number of 2250. But who’s being picky, right?

      The “in addition, a cadet be married” is a typo as the word ‘cannot’ should have been included. The rest of the information that i listed – again – came from the institution in question. I didn’t just make the stuff up off the top of my head. Valley Forge, for example, characterizes its Corp of Cadets as an autonomous student body (whether that’s actually the case or not). Still, thanks for the time to point this stuff out.

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      1. 2013s at |

        I’m just a stickler for specifics. I wouldn’t just take the administration’s word for it next time. I would like to ask where you got 7 years of ROTC from?

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        1. Lee Standberry at |

          I have to hang my head on that one – that doesn’t even make sense on the face of it and i just checked my original draft and its there too (so i can’t blame it on the editor or something – :) ) Its just a typo – should be 4 years. Surprised I missed that one. its pretty obviously a mistake.

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  33. 2013s at |

    Also Valley Forge admitted women into the college around 2007. Cadets do not mostly run the Corps there. I barely had any say so when I was a Battalion Commander there. It is predominately run by the Tacs. They want the Corps to run the Corps but it is just never going to happen with the current mess there. There was only around 598 cadets back in 2010 and over 300 of those were in the college. Now there are barley 400. VF is also not the only junior college to offer ECP. However it still is a great school and I’m proud to be an alumnus.

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    1. PJH at |

      Hey, I have news for you, VFMA has been admitting women to the college alot long than 2007. The first in the college was in 1975 the year before I graduated.

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      1. 2013s at |

        Hate to break it to you but here is an excerpt from a news article about females and VF. Also I was in the 2009-2010 class of females that entered VF.

        “First-Ever Female Cadets Graduate From Valley Forge
        Fox News (Philadelphia) ^ | 05/18/2008 | Bruce Gordon
        Posted on Sun May 18 2008 08:43:49 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) by Kid Shelleen

        Women at war. That’s the headline from Valley Forge Military College, where Friday, the 73-year-old institution graduated its first-ever female cadets. Among them-the first woman at Valley Forge to earn her commission as a Second Lieutenant.

        Glance briefly at the 57 cadets graduating from Valley Forge and you might have missed them–seven young women- the first females ever to earn their associates degrees from this venerable institution

        (Excerpt) Read more at myfoxphilly.com …”

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        1. pjh at |

          Stefani: the first females at VFMA were Susan I. Briggs from Havertown, PA 1975 year book and June Robins of King of Prussia, PA same year.
          They were truely the first females enrolled at VF. They didn’t have uniforms nor were they commissioned.

          In 1976 Jo Ann Dattalo from Meadowbrook, PA was the “First girl to be enrolled in ROTC program.”

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        2. pjh at |

          2013s:

          The article may say the First women to graduate from VF may be true, but reread my statement. The first women to enroll at VF was in 1975. The first woman to enroll in VF ROTC program was in 1976.

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      2. 2013s at |

        Here is another article. And it was 2006 when they entered instead of 2007. (had to correct myself there)

        http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=6147821

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      3. Stefani at |

        VFMAC has three different categories for students
        1. Prep / Boarding School, grades 7-12
        2. College/ROTC Fast Track
        3. U.S. Services Academy Preparation known as Civil Prep.

        Females attending VFMAC as Civil Prep began four years ago. The first female to attend as a Prep went to the Air Force Academy, 2008. The second female to attend as a Prep went to the Naval Academy 2009. The third female to attend as a Prep went to West Point 2010. Once the third female signed on, three others followed for 2010 and three are still at West Point.

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        1. Dave at |

          Well I hate to burst your bubble about woman at VFMA, but two young women were enrolled in the Jr college in the fall of 1973 and graduated around 1975. They didn’t wear uniforms or live on campus, as they were called “day students” Their pictures are shown along with their names in the Fall 1973 “The Forge”, the schools alumni magazine.

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          1. Stefani at |

            Good news! My bubble did not burst.

            You are correct about the women at Valley Forge enrolled in the Junior College.
            However, there is a separate program that did not exist in 1973 or 1975.

            The Junior College as you know it is now what I stated as option 2: “Fast Track”, where an individual stays at Valley Forge until graduation and is commissioned.

            Option 3 the Prepster program is for young men and women who live and study at Valley Forge for one year and then enter the academy. The prepsters have Congressional nominations and appointments to a service academy. The fast track / Junior College students do not proceed to an academy for four years.

            Women did not enter West Point until 1976, with the first female graduating in 1980. Valley Forge did not accept female prepsters for the academies until 2008.

            I hope this is a clearer understanding.

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  34. Molly at |

    Under Norwich University it says that “the majority of the student body comprises the schools corps of cadets.” However, as a current senior civilian student at Norwich I know for a fact that this is false. True, 10 years ago, or maybe even my freshman year this was true, but as time has gone on, they keep admitting more and more students (both corps and civilian) and the school is now basically tied for the number of enrolled students within the two life styles.

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    1. Paul at |

      School year 2011/2012 finds the following number of students, approximately 2,300 cadets, civilian residents, and commuters attend Norwich University, along with about 1,200 online graduate students.
      Of those students, the total size of the “Corps of Cadets” now stands at just over 1,500!
      Corps of Cadets = 1500
      civilian residents, and commuters = 800
      Norwich University, (The Military College of Vermont), still is, (and will always remain), a Military School!
      ESSAYONS
      Alumnus, N.U.C.C. Class of 1987

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      1. al gore at |

        They tried ESSAYONS but the French speakers scoffed the silly translations for cultural reasons among others. Try to sound fancy and fail.

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  35. Paul at |

    On a personal note, I wish a more appropriate photo could have been used for Norwich University! The photo used is of the new “Wise Campus Center”, which replaced the old Mess Hall, “Harmon Hall”.
    A more appropriate photo would have been one of “Jackman Hall”, the main administration building on the upper parade ground!
    Norwich Forever!
    ESSAYONS

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  36. Ron Mexico at |

    FYI…Larry Fitzgerald only graduated from the Academy (high school), not the College. And since your list is more geared towards the college aspect of Valley Forge, he probably shouldn’t be considered college alumni.

    A noteworthy alumni is Wes Moore (graduated from the Academy and College, actually) who is a Rhodes Scholar, Author and more.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wes_Moore

    Your write up about the school was fine (the entire article was a nice read) but I just wanted to point out a minor flaw in your alumni selections.

    Semper Fi!

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    1. Stefani at |

      I believe VFMAC refers to their graduated students as “alumni”.
      No reference to College, Academy or Prep.
      Just alumni.
      It covers all of the categories.

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  37. Christopher M. Halleron at |

    Dear Mr. Standberry:

    Interesting fact about military school graduates—they tend to be combative. You’re a brave man for stirring this pot and your interest in the heritage and tradition of military institutions is sincerely appreciated.

    Essayons,
    Christopher M. Halleron
    Norwich University ’96

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      There is certainly a lot of passion from many graduates/alumni concerning their respective schools. I can only imagine the comments i’ll receive from veterans whenever my ‘toughest military specialty schools’ is published. Semper Fi Marine Force Recon!

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    2. Lee Standberry at |

      :)

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  38. Greg Straessle at |

    Lee
    1.Thanks for your service.
    2.As a ’73 grad and retiree from the top institution I applaud your bias.
    3.I agree that the Army Mule is an more or less equal competitor.
    4.What other school commissions directly into Marine Corps, Seal, Navy Line, Naval/Marine Aviation,
    Nuclear Power, Surface and Submarine, USNA grads have options for which others only dream.
    5.Semper Fi from my Marine Son ’04 and BZ from my Navy son ’01.

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    1. Stefani at |

      West Point is tougher than any school on the list.
      I have never seen any cadets at Navy undergo the intense training that a West Point cadet undergoes.
      What other school has Rangers, Black Ops, Army Aviation, Stryker and the list goes on…

      Navy grads keep dreaming!

      HOOAH Go Army!

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  39. Stefani at |

    TAMU is the only university outside of the U.S. Service Academies that holds the honor of having a U.S. President (Roosevelt) review officers on Simpson Drill Field for selection into duty.

    TAMU in the #3 slot on this list is just about perfect. However, West Point should be #1.

    My family has graduates from TAMU and VFMAC and one at West Point. Whoop! and HOOAH!

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  40. Devil Dog at |

    Did you consider the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets in your analysis? ESPN did some great work last night sharing all of their military tradition during the VT/FSU game in honor of Veteran’s Day weekend. (great game, btw) They said their Corps has over 1,000 cadets. Maybe they did not hit the minimum military institution enrollment for your consideration with their great academic reputation. Just checking… Great list!

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  41. VMIlover at |

    For years, VMI has been seen as the racist, sexist school. It. Is. Not. My family has gone their for generations, and all have served, except for one. My dad. He went, and he blew out his knee, and tore his ACL. 8 times. So, he was deemed unable to go to war. Now, he is a millionaire defense contractor with the government. While it takes people to their limits, it benefits them in the long run. You swim in a pit, full of sewage, and dead pig entrails, and gutted animals, or you did in his time at least. So, you may think I’m crazy wanting to go there, considering the fact I’m a girl. Yes, I wear makeup, and wear heels, and straighten my hair, but it doesnt change the fact that I plan on carrying my family legacy. I’ve been a spoiled brat, and I may not last a day, but it doesn’t change the fact that I’m going to try.

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  42. David at |

    Maybe I’m incorrect, but I think Virginia Tech (Virginia Polytechnical Institute) has a cadet corps of less than 800…and is a lot younger than most of the schools on the list (1950′s?).

    As for Randolph…did you ever think that the reason that schools like A&M, The Citadel, VMI, North Georgia (all SMC’s), etc. can’t commission every cadet is that they’re capped by law?

    Each school has a cap set by the respective services Cadet Commands (ALL ROTC programs) which cumulatively adds up to the total accession numbers given by DoD per branch.

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    1. hokiesg at |

      @David, Yes you would be incorrect. The Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets had over 1000 cadets this year. The university itself was a military school (all Corps) that opened in 1872.
      I believe 1872 is far before your stated 1950. Like Texas A&M it went optional in 1964.
      The VTCC has 7 Medal of Honor recipients (because we learned in the Corps that you don’t WIN a Medal of Honor, it is something you earn due to service and sacrifice)
      Their awards run from the Philippine Insurrection and Spanish-American war, WWI and WWII to Korea.
      Our Corps admitted women in 1973, had the first female company commander of an integrated company by 1979 and first regimental CO by 1987.
      Our graduates have been Generals, Business leaders, authors, put men on the moon and taught children to read.
      Despite being smaller in size, this year VT commissioned over 125 of its senior graduating class. It looked like Texas A&M commissioned 80 graduates.
      Over all I would say the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets has a pretty good program.

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  43. Tobi at |

    I have read through all the comments and I find the readers responses interesting. I applaud the passion people have for their respective universities and branch of service, and their drive for accuracy, being heard, wanting more, etc.

    I want to say, “Thank you” for the time and effort you put into this article. I can imagine the time it took to research the history of each Institution was demanding, ordering the schools difficult, and trying to personal bias overwhelming. I have no doubt there are many Institutions or programs that offer the traditional military atmosphere that are solid, produce very successful alumni, and have extremely rich traditions. However, it sounds as though you were tasked to identify the “Top 10 Military Schools in America,” not the top 10 ROTC programs or top 10 divisions, etc. but Schools, Institutions, etc. No doubt the challenge this offered you. So, kudos. Nicely done.

    I am a proud 1990 Norwich University, Military College of Vermont alumni and the virtues and lessons I gained while a member of the Corps of Cadets are incorporated into my way of life. The training I received (mentally, emotionally, physically, and spiritually) is unmatched and thus far prepared me well for many of life’s most unpredictable challenges. Virtues such as honesty, loyalty, integrity, etc. are the benchmarks for which I place great value and I own. Norwich strengthened those characteristics in me and taught me to honor and foster those qualities, and to impart and grow them in others. Moreover, I imagine the other 9 American academies you chose for your top 10 list fosters that same approach.

    In summary, great job and great article. Thank you for a wonderful overview of the TOP 10 most PRESTIGIOUS MILITARY ACADEMIES and INSTITUTIONS in AMERICA.

    ESSAYONS.

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    1. Paul at |

      ESSAYONS!
      Class of 1987
      N.U.C.C.

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    2. Gary at |

      Well said Tobi…. NU82

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  44. hokiesg at |

    As a proud Hokie and graduate of the Corps of Cadets at Virginia Tech I must say I am a little disappointed that the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets was not listed.
    The Corps at Virginia Tech started in 1872 and though it did lose numbers after Vietnam, has seen a resurgence in the last 10 years. Today they have over 1000 cadets. A majority of these cadets will go on to commission into one of the 4 branches of service (I believe they commission somewhere around 74% of their senior class) Those who don’t commission go on to serve their communities as business leaders, government employees, teachers, police officers and entrepreneurs, etc.
    The ROTC’s at VT are consistently rated top in their branches.
    We have had generals, business leaders,a Nobel prize winner, and some of our graduates helped put men on the moon (Chris Craft and Homer Hickom to name two).
    Academically the cadets must qualify to get into Virginia Tech before they even come to the Corps and many graduate with a degree from the competitive Engineering program. The Corps always had high academic standards and the cadets (when I was there) were always slightly ahead of our across campus counterparts when it came to GPAs.
    I mean it says something when the United States Army chooses to highlight your organization on their ROTC information website doesn’t it?
    http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/success-stories.html
    http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/courses-and-colleges.html
    http://www.goarmy.com/rotc/courses-and-colleges/military-colleges.html
    Thanks for this article though!

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    1. Rod at |

      The Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets (VTCC) commissions a higher percentage of officers than any other senior military college. It also has the highest admission standards of the senior military colleges. The University itself. along with TX A&M, are the only Public Universities with a Senior Military College ranked in the top 25 of National Public Universities by US NEWS & WORLD REPORT. Indeed, the VTCC has over 1k cadets. was founded in 1872, and has 7 medal of honor winners.

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      1. Rewa at |

        Amen! I was just going to mention that we were left out of the rankings…and we are definitely solid competition to the service academies and Texas A&M…

        @Lee Standberry – if you rank Military colleges again and want info on the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets – please contact me- I’m the Asst. Commandant for Recruiting at Virginia Tech – I’d be happy to give you some information.

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  45. Charles Gardner at |

    Based on the Forbes listing I would have put VMI ahead of Norwich and Texas A&M

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