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  1. Pax
    Pax at |

    I think you were a little too hard on a few films here.

    The Tim Burton version of ‘Planet of the Apes’ was awesome. I actually started with Burton’s film first and because of that I watched the originals – *none* of which were that bad.

    The ‘Aliens’ franchise rocks in its’ entirety including Resurrection. Awesome series of films.

    The orginal Matrix was so good the sequel could only go down. The next two films (which is really just one long film) wasn’t bad at all except for the ending. The ending made no sense. A human telepathically (or empathically) communicating with machines. That, and only that, was the ‘jump the shark’ moment. They saved the worst of the “second” film for the last few minutes.

    Agree about Batman to the point that I thought (and still think) that all the pre-Nolan films sucked. Agree with your assesment of the Superman flms.

    Don’t really care enough about the other selections to comment on them. None of the others interested me enough to care whether they got better or worse.

    Hope my comment doesn’t come across as too obtuse. Appreciate the time it takes to put these lists together and love the site.


    1. Ben
      Ben at |

      I agree with you there pax, on every single point – which meant I obviously had to comment. Aside from your opinions, I also think that Pirates of the Caribbean 3 was actually good – when I decided to re watch it. When I first saw it in cinemas I was disappointed but I think that it fell victim to over-hype. When trailers and people hyping it up about how good they think it’s going to be get out of hand expectations go through the roof and anything short of a miracle will disappoint. I should note I found nothing wrong with potc 2, it was a light-hearted sequal that was fun to watch.

  2. Little_Sam
    Little_Sam at |

    How about Star Wars? Shouldn’t Star Wars be on this list? I think it should. The original movie was great. The second of the series was good. The third of the series was great. The first two of the three prequels were terrible. Only the last of the three prequels was watchable — barely. I definitely think Star Wars should be on this list.

  3. 5minutes
    5minutes at |

    I’ll agree with Sam on Star Wars.

    As for your list, I would take off the Matrix (the sequels weren’t terrible, just not as good as the first) and Pirates of the Caribbean (ditto). Replace each with Star Wars and Friday the 13th (which wasn’t a great film, but which was utterly ruined by an endless menagerie of crap sequels.

    As for the Alien series, I’ll give you Resurrection (which I liked on its own, but as a part of the series, it’s an embarrassment), but Alien3 is, by far, my favorite of the series. The thing is: most Americans want action, which is why they tend to gravitate towards James “Dances With Smurfs” Cameron’s movie, which was a lot of fun. However, most Europeans preferred the David Fincher-helmed third because of its visceral, simple plot that was more about building the Ripley character than about who has the biggest guns.

  4. TJ
    TJ at |

    Agreed on Star Wars, I’d ditch Halloween & put Star Wars in there. Return of the Jedi was a big step down from the first two, and the prequels are mostly terrible!

    Other than that though, this list is perfectly spot on, love it, what a great read!

  5. Spocker
    Spocker at |

    In regards to the Planet of the Apes series:

    Sequels are generated by what the studio deems will draw profits. The original did well enough, drawing $32.5 M ($200M adjusted for inflation today) off a budget of roughly $6M and garnering 2 Oscar noms for best costume design and best original score, and an honorary Oscar for make-up artist John Chambers, that Fox Studios believed that it could profit from a sequel (a rare move for a 60’s sci-fi film).

    Unfortunately, two things doomed the sequel, Beneath the Planet of the Apes. One is that Charlston Heston didn’t want to do a sequel. He only agreed if he could die in it right off the bat (he ended up appearing in the opening scenes, disappearing for most of the movies, and appearing at the end). He ended up giving his pay to charity. So the ‘hero’ part went to James Franciscus, who played Brent, the astronaut who followed Taylor in the same trajectory on another space ship. And he was only hired because he sorta looked looked like Taylor.

    The other more important reason is that Fox only gave the producer half the budget of the original, $3M, so the make-up suffered, notably by the use of ‘pullover’ masks for the ape costumes instead of the latex appliances, which lent to an unfortunatelyfaked appearence in the crowd scenes.

    Ironically, despite these problems, ‘Beneath’ is the most profitable “Apes” film percentage-wise budget ($3m) to box office ($18m, or $100M today), exceeding BOTH the original AND the 2001 remake.

    After the initial run of the original film and the FOUR film sequels (not five), the studio decided to release all five films to theater’s again in 1974.

    But the biggest success was the phenomenom known as product merchandising boosting an additional $100M in sales profits of in the movie tie-ins, one of the first series to successfully do so.

    So I would hardly call the Planet of the Apes sequels as one of the worst series.

    1. 5minutes
      5minutes at |

      As much as I love the first 2 films in the series, I actually have to agree that the 3rd, 4th, and 5th films ruined the franchise in increasing ways. The third movie wasn’t too bad, but it definitely had the feel of a “let’s make a buck” on it. The fourth movie was sci-fi blacksploitation, and while I enjoy the menacing tone of the movie, it just doesn’t fit with the rest. The fifth doesn’t even register in my book.

      The remake… you know, a lot of people pan it, but I’ve got a soft spot for it. Not much of one, but a little. But, the whole fiasco over it (Burton’s total involvement is questionable) makes me nervous about the upcoming “Rise of the Planet of the Apes”.

  6. Charles
    Charles at |

    I have to differ on the subject of the Alien movies. Each movie was a different genre: The first was horror; the second was essentially a war movie; the third was hard scifi; and, the fourth was an action/escape/disaster movie. The only one that I’ve been disappointed with has been the third and only because Ripley “died”…

  7. Dennis
    Dennis at |

    I have never seen any Shreks or Halloweens–But you are right on target with the others. Totally ruined. Same with the Vacation movies-Walley World was a riot–The European trip was funny-Las Vegas stunk-up the joint.

  8. The Riddler
    The Riddler at |

    I must also agree that The Matrix wasn’t ruined by its own franchise. There’s also no mention of the Animatrix, which was an awesome, deeper look into the Matrix mythos. Star Wars should definitely be in its place, in my opinion.

    1. Me
      Me at |

      The Matrix revolutions it’s a piece of s**t that ruined all the history. Animatrix was awesome.

  9. Tim
    Tim at |

    You didn’t do much research, did you? The Matrix was written as a trilogy, but the reason the last two (which don’t exist, IMHO) were so damned bad is because Larry Wachowski threw out the playbook in order to make the movies his “lover” Ilsa Strix wanted, instead of what they had originally conceived of.

    Basically the last two Matrix movies were a demonstration of devotion from one freak show to another.

  10. Lisa
    Lisa at |

    You forgot “Saw”

  11. Craig J. Smalls
    Craig J. Smalls at |

    What about Saw?

  12. Noah
    Noah at |


    Rocky Rocky Rocky Rocky Rocky.

    1. McNally
      McNally at |

      Rocky 5 was the only bad Rocky.

  13. vigilante
    vigilante at |

    you could have almost every horror franchise

  14. Jen
    Jen at |

    Star Wars people. This list is nothing without it.

  15. m&m
    m&m at |

    The Saw movies need to be on this list!

  16. Jesse
    Jesse at |

    Have to disagree a little with Batman. The first is one undeniably great but the second was garbage. And The Dark Knight is one of the most overrated movies of all time. This guy’s column entitled “Why Everyone is Wrong About The Dark Knight” pretty much says it all: http://www.matchflick.com/column/1836.

  17. bored
    bored at |

    what about scream and transformers? why aren’t they ON this list?
    also have to agree with people who said saw should be too.

  18. Stevo
    Stevo at |

    I agree with most of the list, but echo the sentiments of others. Star Wars should be on here simply for Jar Jar Binks alone, that S.O.B. Also, let’s throw Dumb and Dumber on there, as the sequel (or is it prequel? Whatever. It still pisses me off) actually tried to make the original classic worse.

  19. dotmatrix
    dotmatrix at |

    Re Jaws: Who’s the scientist? An invisible, unheard character? The version I saw had a marine biologist, a shark hunter, and Amity’s chief of police.

    1. gS49
      gS49 at |

      Marine biology is a science.

      However, I don’t remember that the three humans ate any of the swimmers as the summary said.

    2. drowningbarbie
      drowningbarbie at |

      i’m glad you brought this up, i was gonna say that the so-called ‘rag-tag’ team had a policeman in it, not two scientists

  20. Chinoiserie
    Chinoiserie at |

    Since universally all sequels are worse than originals (not countin movies like Lord of the rings that were made as series to begin with) you could have but almost all movies with sequels in this list. You seem to have just picked those witch are most popular becouse Pirates of the caribbean and Shrek sequels can hardly be worse than some movies out there and i dont think they have ruined the first movies.

  21. Peter Boucher
    Peter Boucher at |

    I have a couple. 1).The remake with Dennis Quaid and Hugh Laurie of “The Flight Of The Phoenix” was terrible. The original (1965) had Jimmy Stewart, Sir Richard Attenborough, Ernest Borgnine, George Kennedy, Sir Ian Bannen, Dan Duryea, Peter Finch and is a nail biter and had no women in it. It was a MAN’S type of movie where as one of the survivors of the remake was a woman. 2). The remake of “Psycho” with Anne Heche, Vince Vaughn and William Macy was another terrible remake. The original (1960) had Anthony Perkins, Janet Leigh, and Martin Balsam and is considered the horror movie that broke all the rules of that movie genre complete with a particular “shower scene”. And most of all, which I think is a disgrace to the movie industry, is the colorization of black & white films. Alfred Hitchcock made many colorized movies before “Psycho”, but he wanted to film “Psycho” in black & white to set the tone and mood for the movie to give it a more graphic feeling.

  22. Vjaf
    Vjaf at |

    what about terminator?

  23. Peter Boucher
    Peter Boucher at |

    Here’s another one, though not a horror movie. How about a sequel to “The Graduate” with Dustin Hoffmann and the late Anne Bancroft (Mrs. Robinson) and rehire Mike Nichols as director and hopefully try to find an actress who could fill Ms. Bancroft’s shoes (she was married to Mel Brooks, by the way). The original and only had a perfect set up for a sequel as Benjamin (Hoffmann) helps Elaine escape from her pre-planned marriage(Katherine Ross) and ride off on the Public Bus. Pick the story up from there and see how and what they would be doing with their lives today. I would pay the admission to see it, no doubt.

  24. Felicity
    Felicity at |

    How can two films do something single-handedly?

    And how do you literally crown a movie?

  25. Stephen Cook
    Stephen Cook at |

    Good list. I would add the “Terminator” to it. The initial movie was excellent, especially for science fiction on a low budget. T2 was excellent. Cameron lost the rights to the character in a series of divorces and lawsuits worthy of their own movie.

    Terminator 3 is a rehash/parody of the second Terminator movie. Awful in every regard.

    On the people mentioning Star Wars. I would submit that the series was excellent until after the rescue of Hans Solo in Return of the Jedi. After that, it fell to the ego of George Lucas.

    Lucas created byzantine plots no one could follow. His characters ceased to be unique, and the best of them were annoying. He demonstrated an inability to understand that you shouldn’t stick a comedy sequence in the middle of what should be the most dramatic part of the movie. Imagine the “I am your father” sequence with scenes of C3PO walking around trying to find his head. Kinda ruins the mood, huh?

  26. blouf
    blouf at |

    what a bunch of nonsense pirate of caribean for the win

  27. Nadeem Khan
    Nadeem Khan at |

    What about Spiderman ?

    1. McNally
      McNally at |

      One bad movie does not ruin a trilogy.

      1. TopTenz Master
        TopTenz Master at |

        How about 2? I don’t know what happened to my beloved The Matrix.

  28. moriazbane
    moriazbane at |

    Star Wars Episode 1 -3D. That is really all you need to know.

  29. Irina
    Irina at |

    I like your list but don’t agree with Alien 3. That movie was great and differed from all other Alien films. The acting was superb and the ending was great & touching

  30. RorshachLives!
    RorshachLives! at |

    Great article, and I agree with just about everything on it, it’s about time an article like this was put together! That being said, I slightly disagree with the ‘Superman’ segment, in that ‘Superman II’ was NOT a sequel but rather the extended third act of a truly epic three-act modern mythology.

    I agree with other posters here that ‘Star Wars’ should have been been on that list, the prequels were not only terrible but completely unnecessary (the backstory didn’t need to be shown, you were already told what happened), but I would also add the ‘Terminator’, ‘Rocky’, ‘Mad Max’, and ‘Rambo’ series’ to the list as well, as all should have ended with their second installments, with the exception of ‘Rambo’ whose second and third installments were inferior cartoons but the 2008 film was the first and only worthy successor to ‘First Blood’.

    The ‘Matrix’ sequels are a little more perplexing, however, I agree that the first film ended properly and didn’t necessarily need a sequel(s), as such, but if the Wachowski siblings did have it planned out from the beginning (and I’ll take them at their word), maybe the problem is that they were stretched too thin in their making; they were wasting time and creative effort on the superfluous side projects of the ‘Animatrix’ shorts (with the exception of ‘Final Flight of the Osiris’ – a legitimate prologue), the ridiculous live-action elements of the video game (wasting valuable production time), and the comic books, if they had concentrated ALL their considerable talent on ‘…Reloaded’ and ‘…Revolutions’ alone, maybe they would have been better and more focused…

    1. RorshachLives!
      RorshachLives! at |

      Just thought of one more franchise that should never have been, ‘RoboCop’ – one of the best movies of the 1980’s, full stop, followed by two horrendous and utterly gratuitous sequels, not to mention a simply terrible television series/cartoon show/mini-series… the upcoming remake, however pointless, remains to be seen…

  31. Rey
    Rey at |

    Agree with most of your assessments,but…”Hot off the success of the first film, a sequel, Highlander II: The Quickening.” Highlander II was made six years after the first movie, hardly “hot.” The sequel was made because of a slowly building cult following over the years (though can say I actually saw it in the theater in ’86). And, about Puss and Boots being third rate–you are crazy! Puss is the best character in the series, and his solo film was better, in my estimation, than Shrek, as it wasn’t chock full of instantly dated topical humor.

  32. Tom Anderson
    Tom Anderson at |

    I don’t get the defenders of Alien 3. Exactly what part of that piece of trash, which seemed to be made up as they went along, was good? How about the girl the Ripley worked so hard to save, who is dead, her beautiful character just thrown away; the scene with a close up of the little girl’s dead eye as they rip into her body to determine cause of death, with Ripley cooing “Sorry Baby”…..

    The inexplicable bad guys showing up, lead bad guy looking just like the robot. OK. The endless chases seemingly in big circles. Ripley sacrificing herself, arms outstretched like Jesus on a cross as she is incinerated, and moments before said incineration, the alien ripping out of her stomach.

    Then the bad guys just shrug, oh well, let;’s go home!

    NO suspense, everything the characters fought for in the previous film is just carelessly thrown away, cardboard supporting characters.

    Yeah, great movie. If it was so great, why do most people hate this and the forth film and love the first two? Because the first two had style, plot, a climax, skilled directors and visionaries.

    Note to lovers of Alien 3–it doesn’t make you cool or “edgy” to like a film just because it is morose. It just makes you appear weird.

  33. Helena
    Helena at |

    Alien 3 ruined the series, and then Alien Resurrection was crapped out to add insult to injury.
    I have a cousin who adores this series and we were greatly looking forward to Alien 3, not having read the reviews. Big mistake. She had this homicidal look in her eyes from the first few moments of that trash, and it only went downhill from there.
    Twenty years later, my cousin has conceded that while Twilight may be a worse story overall, nothing makes her feel quite so stabby as the way she felt when we watched Alien 3.
    Of course I argued with her. I mean, after all, when they killed off two of the surviving characters from Aliens, it was just like when they killed off Han and Luke at the beginning of The Return of the Jedi.
    Oh wait–that never happened. Because even George Lucas had enough sense not to do something that utterly stupid.

  34. John
    John at |

    RoboCop should be on this list

    1. Paul R
      Paul R at |

      I think that by any reasonable yardstick, that the Matrix sequels can be said to have ruined the legacy of the first film. The second films contained so much verbal twaddle that they came over as being in contempt of the audience.


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