Comments on: Top 10 Traitors http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php Life, on the short list. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:59:33 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Heather Matthews http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-7481 Heather Matthews Fri, 19 Feb 2010 21:14:13 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-7481 No matter who I decided to put on the list, someone would find fault with it. Overall, I think it's a good list and an interesting read. Thanks for your suggestions - they're really good ones. No matter who I decided to put on the list, someone would find fault with it. Overall, I think it’s a good list and an interesting read. Thanks for your suggestions – they’re really good ones.

]]> By: russ http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-7454 russ Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:27:14 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-7454 Benedict Arnold? Twice a traitor... First to the British, then to the rebels - which is why the British didn't trust him. Brutus? Personal betrayal perhaps, but he was trying to save the Republic, whilst the followers of Caesar were trying to destroy it. Jane Fonda? Seriously? In the same list as Judas Iscariot? That's a bit strong. Where are Field Marshal Petain, Tallyrand, the leaders of the 4th Crusade.... Benedict Arnold? Twice a traitor… First to the British, then to the rebels – which is why the British didn’t trust him.
Brutus? Personal betrayal perhaps, but he was trying to save the Republic, whilst the followers of Caesar were trying to destroy it.
Jane Fonda? Seriously? In the same list as Judas Iscariot? That’s a bit strong. Where are Field Marshal Petain, Tallyrand, the leaders of the 4th Crusade….

]]> By: JD http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-7111 JD Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:40:39 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-7111 That would of course, be my mistake. :) That would of course, be my mistake. :)

]]> By: JD http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-7110 JD Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:39:39 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-7110 I'm on the fence when it comes to Jane Fonda. You can't put the treatment of POW's on her behalf,since it was the viet cong doing the torturing, not her. Heck, they could have said they did it because our president ate brussel sprouts and they didn't like that. Even if some POW's said they were mis treated because of statements related to JF, the fact is their captors did the damage. As far as her being so friendly with the "enemy" and denying the mistreatment, that makes her an absolute idiot. But I don't think it is quite treason. I think mostly, that was her stance on the war to show she didn't believe in the war. Fact is WE invaded the area...they didn't come over here and invade our country. How would you treat some military foreigners if hundreds of thousands of them showed up in the US to take control of our country and firebombed half the place? This wasn't a war against hitler or something...there was little reason for us to be over there. I’m on the fence when it comes to Jane Fonda. You can’t put the treatment of POW’s on her behalf,since it was the viet cong doing the torturing, not her. Heck, they could have said they did it because our president ate brussel sprouts and they didn’t like that. Even if some POW’s said they were mis treated because of statements related to JF, the fact is their captors did the damage.

As far as her being so friendly with the “enemy” and denying the mistreatment, that makes her an absolute idiot. But I don’t think it is quite treason. I think mostly, that was her stance on the war to show she didn’t believe in the war.
Fact is WE invaded the area…they didn’t come over here and invade our country. How would you treat some military foreigners if hundreds of thousands of them showed up in the US to take control of our country and firebombed half the place?
This wasn’t a war against hitler or something…there was little reason for us to be over there.

]]> By: Greenbandit http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-7098 Greenbandit Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:12:01 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-7098 I, too, must disagree with the inclusion of Jane Fonda on this list. Not because I'm defending her actions, but rather because there's a very real difference between her, and other people on the list. Some of these people were in military positions of power, or political positions of power, and their treachery lead directly to the deaths of large groups of people. Others (like the Rosenbergs) sold secrets that they knew were potentially deadly. Others either performed assassinations or attempted to. Ms. Fonda's behavior may have "given aid and comfort" to the enemy, and it may have lead to mistreatment of American prisoners, but I've never heard that she killed or tried to kill anyone. Her actions were treacherous and traitorous, but not murderous like the others here. Robert Ford has been suggested, and would be an adequate replacement. I, too, must disagree with the inclusion of Jane Fonda on this list. Not because I’m defending her actions, but rather because there’s a very real difference between her, and other people on the list. Some of these people were in military positions of power, or political positions of power, and their treachery lead directly to the deaths of large groups of people. Others (like the Rosenbergs) sold secrets that they knew were potentially deadly. Others either performed assassinations or attempted to. Ms. Fonda’s behavior may have “given aid and comfort” to the enemy, and it may have lead to mistreatment of American prisoners, but I’ve never heard that she killed or tried to kill anyone. Her actions were treacherous and traitorous, but not murderous like the others here.

Robert Ford has been suggested, and would be an adequate replacement.

]]> By: Betsy http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-6907 Betsy Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:19:12 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-6907 *headdesk* Benedict Arnold was NOT a troublemaker as a child. That's a myth made up after his betrayal to discredit him. *headdesk* Benedict Arnold was NOT a troublemaker as a child. That’s a myth made up after his betrayal to discredit him.

]]> By: TopTenz Master http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-6648 TopTenz Master Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:00:14 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-6648 Cardnals100 - Okay, we understand. You don't believe Jesus is the son of God. But even if you don't, the story of this betrayal is legendary and far more widely known than any other, regardless of your religious preference or lack thereof. I support this list and the choices made. And, yes, I am a Christian and I do believe Judas betrayed more than a "random middle eastern guy." You have your opinion, I have mine. Let's respect each other's. Thanks. Cardnals100 – Okay, we understand. You don’t believe Jesus is the son of God. But even if you don’t, the story of this betrayal is legendary and far more widely known than any other, regardless of your religious preference or lack thereof. I support this list and the choices made. And, yes, I am a Christian and I do believe Judas betrayed more than a “random middle eastern guy.”

You have your opinion, I have mine. Let’s respect each other’s. Thanks.

]]> By: Cardnals100 http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-6647 Cardnals100 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:41:48 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-6647 Still confused... Random middle eastern guy+random middle eastern guy+betrayal=worst traitor in history? Still confused…

Random middle eastern guy+random middle eastern guy+betrayal=worst traitor in history?

]]> By: Heather Matthews http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-6646 Heather Matthews Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:17:51 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-6646 I'm very happy with my work on this one. I think it would have been an oversight to leave Judas off the list - he is undoubtedly history's most notorious traitor. Thanks for your comment. I’m very happy with my work on this one. I think it would have been an oversight to leave Judas off the list – he is undoubtedly history’s most notorious traitor. Thanks for your comment.

]]> By: Cardnals100 http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-traitors.php#comment-6644 Cardnals100 Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:17:24 +0000 http://www.toptenz.net/?p=619#comment-6644 Judas,really? Theres not even any creditable evidence of his existence and betraying some random middle eastern man isn't exactly the worst betrayal in history. If anything shouldn't the Rosenburgs be #1? By giving the secret to the Soviet Union they pretty much started a cold war which almost killed most of humanity. Judas,really?

Theres not even any creditable evidence of his existence and betraying some random middle eastern man isn’t exactly the worst betrayal in history.

If anything shouldn’t the Rosenburgs be #1? By giving the secret to the Soviet Union they pretty much started a cold war which almost killed most of humanity.

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