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  1. Joseph Furguson at |

    StarFox is a little icky and should not be on any team.

    Sentry’s problem was that he was too damn powerful for his own good. You can’t write effective stories with a character that powerful. Sure his is called Marvel’s Superman, but DC did not have as much trouble with Superman as Marvel did with Sentry.

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  2. Ryan at |

    You forgot to include the Swordsman’s rival the Black Knight, who, has no superpowers but is excellent at riding a horse. Which would be great for a rodeo but not for fighting bad guys that fly and/ or can drive a car.

    Also, Hellcat was an Avenger. Hellcat was basically Catwoman in a yellow costume. No special powers just a fixation with cats.

    Funny list by the way, especially your description of Starfox.

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  3. Mark at |

    Moon Knight and US Agent? Seriously? Their names don’t belong anywhere near this list.

    US Agent exists because he was Captain America for a while. Duh. Then he fulfilled the Captain America role for the West Coast Avengers.

    And the reasons Moon Knight shouldn’t be mentioned here are so obvious that having to list them would be an insult to both of us.

    You couldn’t find a better candidate than Moon Knight? Gilgamesh? Hellcat? Silverclaw? Living Lightning? Triathalon? The Falcon? Antman? Do you really think Ant Man is cooler than Moon Knight? (He’s not.) Even the picture of Moon Knight that you used proves you wrong.

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    1. Gorgor at |

      did you read the list? gilgamesh is on there

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    2. Jason at |

      I 100% agree. MoonKnight and U.S Agent where great charicters. Not to mention to theperson that wrote this article you really have to brush up on Moonknight your break down of his charicter is way off base. By the way he did have super powers, they got more powerful ccording to how full the moon was, hence MoonKnight.

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      1. anthony at |

        I loved Moon Knight. Great character, just not a team player, or a superhero kind of guy.

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        1. G at |

          I agree, Moon Knight does not belong, and Jack of Hearts was originally a very cool character back when the Avengers used to fight intergalactic bad guys.

          The Initiative gives you tons of opportunities to swap people on this list out (Thor Girl, Wundarr the Aquarian, Pay Dirt, Stunt Master, Frog Man – OK, he was a Skrull, but come on – Frog Man?, Butterball).

          If you think that’s cheating, there’s Two Gun Kid, Jocasta, Power Woman (I thought names like that went out in the 60s)

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    3. LordAzrael at |

      Yep – During his stint with the West Coast Avengers Moon Knight did have his Fist of Khonshu super powers. At the time his multiple personalities were more just like multiple identies but a little extreme – certainly not multiple personality disorder.

      And don’t forget he banged Tigra.

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  4. TriviaFan at |

    I am not a comic book person but D-man’s costume resembles Wolverine’s.

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    1. Some Dude at |

      It is. Daredevil’s old costume (that’s why there’s a ‘D’ on it.) and a thrown away Wolverine mask.

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  5. AnonymousLOBO at |

    US Agent and Moon Knight are great characters, and Deathcry was an X-Men villain. D-Man’s costume looks like Dare Devil’s first costume.

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    1. Red King at |

      Agreed, but like he says they work pretty well as a solo characters, but whoever gave them Avengers ID card should be shot!

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  6. jason at |

    Actually, both Moon Knight and US Agent made it to be playable characters in Marvel: Ultimate Aliance. US Agent was just an alternate costume for Captain America, but Moon Knight was his own character.

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    1. fdx at |

      Well Captain America wore the black costume when he gave up (again) his captain America identity and US agent took his identity and shield. After a while steve rogers took back his costume and US agent ended with the black costume. Long story short, Captain America did wear the black costume that’s why it’s available as an alternate costume in the game.

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  7. Amrendra at |

    Nice list but a bit confusing while reading. Also would have been nice if the powers of the characters were also mentioned.

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  8. Brien at |

    How DARE you put Moon Knight on this list.

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  9. fdx at |

    I tend to agree that Moon Knight is not a bad character and not a bad avenger, especially in Secret Avengers but i do agree that the last incarnations of the character are not as good as the initial run by Moench and Sienkiewicz, the fact that they recently turned him into a crazy guy doesn’t make him really appealing. I’ve never been a fan of US agent aka “right wing captain America” but he was an interesting character, especially in West Coast Avengers. Also sometimes weak characters can make interesting group heroes since they couldn’t make it on their own. I may shock some people here but i don’t think Spider-Man makes a good avenger, he’s so powerful as a solo act that being in so powerful a group kind of reduce his efficiency. Same goes for Daredevil by the way.

    That being said there are a few “weak” characters that didn’t make the list, “Two-gun kid” is one who was clearly out of place in the Avengers; “Sandman” as well; “Triathlon” was really not Busiek’s best idea…
    Anyway, each character can be lame or not in a group, depending on the writer….except D-Man, he’s lame whatever he does :-)

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    1. Micheal Lockwood at |

      Actually, Brian Michael Bendis just put out one of the most FANTASTIC Moon Knight stories in years. And that just ended like a couple months ago.

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      1. fdx at |

        Not a big fan of Bendis’s vision of Moon Knight, his Daredevil was good but i always thought he kinda missed the point of Moon Knight ans since it was cancelled i don’t think it was a huge success.

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    2. Colton at |

      I don’t know any of the others, still new to the entirety of the marvel universe, but I do agree that Spider-man and Daredevil are better solo. A partner or team would get in the way of Daredevil’s senses, and Spider-man has the powers and senses of one of the most amazing solo hunting predators in nature. Like Daredevil, a partner would just get in the way.

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  10. Lee Standberry at |

    Good list. enjoyable read and it made me laugh out loud a couple of times. Reading some of the comments, who knew there were so many Moon Knight fans? His writers have done him an injustice over the years as his image is much better than his stories.

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  11. Privateer at |

    Anyone remember this dude?

    Puck!

    Despite amazing timing, and saving the day once or twice. Still. Highly lame.

    He does cartwheels.

    Like, thats it.

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  12. AmalgamDavid at |

    Moondragon was awful with her arrogant ways, was not much of a Tigra fan either…preferred Hellcat!

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    1. DarthMeow504 at |

      Tigra is vastly underrated and misused.

      Think about it, she’s a WERETIGER. How is that so hard to make cool? if a werewolf is scary and awesome, a tiger is ten times more so. Claws, teeth, superhuman strength and speed, she could and should be shredding anyone in the same power league as Spider-Man and that’s nothing to complain about. Her claws can cut sheet metal. She can throw small cars. She can punch a hole in a brick wall. And she can track you by scent and stalk you so you never see her coming, until her teeth close on your throat.

      The only thing about Tigra that isn’t badass is the pathetic way she’s been written.

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  13. Bad Dreams at |

    Great list! I have no issues with it (not even Moon Knight, since he’s a loner).

    My comments on some others:

    Black Knight: Better than Swordsman, but he had that curse where he couldn’t draw blood. Why even have the sword? LAME.

    Mantis: A pet peeve of writer Steve Englehart, she was always out of place for me.

    Moondragon: Sexy bald chick, but so cold and out of place. Forced in.

    Hellcat: Pasty Walker being an Avenger is beyond absurd.

    Two-Gun Kid: I’m okay with a time displaced honorary member.

    Tigra: She was sexy to me when I was younger, but that’s about it.

    Captain Marvel: Had issues with her leading the team. Seemed like affirmative action plus female power, but they kept writing her as not being confident. Lame second string name.

    Thing, Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman: Uhmm……real lame.

    Sersi: Seemed like a D-list background character.

    Stringray: I pretty much stopped reading The Avengers every month.

    Spider-Man: Goes against the core character.

    Rage: Power-Man light.

    Living Lightning: West Coast started to suck then.

    Spider-Woman: See above.

    Crystal: One of those characters that jumps from FF to Avengers. Overrated Inhuman.

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  14. Sheridan at |

    Just for people that don’t know:
    He dresses in white because he wants his victims to see that flash of white descend on them before they die, he wants them to KNOW what killed them.
    He is not so insane that he thinks it somehow helps him be stealthier.

    Also… Sentry has the power of one million exploding suns… >.> That’s all I have to say about that.

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  15. Scott at |

    Moon Knight and Jack of Hearts don’t belong anywhere near this list. Silverclaw and Triathlon, on the other hand, should be fighting Gilgamesh for the top spot.

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  16. Rico at |

    Did you forget that Sentry is one of the most powerful superheroes in Marvel? He has the power of a thousand exploding suns. He emitted a light energy that calmed the Hulk down. He ripped Ares (the God of War) in half. Sentry’s powers are limitless, and may even rival those of the Silver Surfer’s and Phoenix’s. So, I wouldn’t count Sentry as one of the lamest Avengers.

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    1. Joseph at |

      Sentry was also a lousy team member. That is the point of the list. Not power levels, but effectiveness as a time member

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  17. Spenser at |

    Very glad to see all the Moon Knight love, Hes awesome. He wears white on purpose to be MORE visible, the writer of this article clearly knows nothing of Moon Knight. His insanity makes him more likeable and more relatable. He’s not this perfect symbol like Batman but that’s a good thing, plus he beats the piss out of taskmaster…. so cool, my favorite.

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    1. Joseph Furguson at |

      I love how you don’t read the entire entry before commenting. The writer clearly states that Moon Knight is a great solo character, but a lousy Avenger. The point of the article is to highlight characters that do not fit into the team, which Moon Knight clearly doesn’t.

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      1. Spenser at |

        Nope the list is titled “Lamest Avengers.” There isn’t anything lame about Moon Knight. The writer is clearly dogging him as a hero, his description isn’t flattering. Further more, as long as he isn’t riding shotgun with Hawk-eye, he’s a pretty stable avenger.

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        1. Aaron at |

          I totally agree with Spenser

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        2. silverbanshee at |

          How can you say he was a stable character? I loved him, but he left the Avengers when he murdered someone. He’s a great character but never fit with them. He just doesn’t belong with a team. I wish they’d give him a movie.

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  18. PJ at |

    Moon Knight is my favorite Marvel hero and he is a boss. He’s way cooler than anyone and he doesn’t decide he’s a taxi driver. He’s Batman that decides to copy other heroes when he wants. He was on IGN’s list of 100 best heroes

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  19. Jake Mortensen at |

    Moon Knight is a total bad ass. And The Sentry is something completely new! He is afraid of how powerful he is which makes sense! Sentry is the most powerful being in the Marvel universe!

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  20. ZapMan at |

    **FAILED** you said something about how to make swordman seem useful on a team with guys like “Superman or Thor” you Failed My friend! Superman is not even in this Universe =_=

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    1. orron_kira at |

      You have to read, my friend!

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  21. Banon at |

    Moon Knight should not be on this list. The very idea that he would be considered one of the “lamest avengers” is just insulting.

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  22. EJ at |

    Obviously this guy didn’t do his research.

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  23. Dannyboy at |

    How dare you put Moonknight on this list,do you even read comics or are you pulling straws.

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  24. Yoman at |

    I completely disagree with moon knight being on this. In fact, he’s one of the under-estimated, under-appreciated characters of Marvel. Horrible selection. I don’t know if you read comics, sir.

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  25. darthstich at |

    Moon Knight makes the list over the Two Gun Kid? I’d rather fight along a multiple personality anti-hero than a wanna-be cowboy in a leopard skin vest.

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    1. darthstich at |

      Oh and U.S. Agent does deserve some cookie point since he did actually have a turn as Captain America

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  26. Memnock at |

    Moon Knight is a powered, his strenght wanes with the phases of the moon.
    Usagent was a good character, I mean how many spider clones running around marvel.

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  27. Dane at |

    This was clearly written by someone who has not actually read any of the Avengers stories featuring these characters. It seems the author just saw them, pulled up a Wiki profile and proceeded to write his article from there. Aside from Deathcry, all these people figured into some excellent Avenger’s storylines. The author needs to actually read the source material before writing such drivel.

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  28. bob at |

    i love moonknight and the sentry

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  29. klk at |

    Don’t see Wonderman on the list. He should be there instead of Jack-of-Hearts IMO

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  30. Jonathan Coolidge at |

    I can’t believe that Sentry and Moon Knight are on here either! When all other Avengers beat a hasty retreat it was Sentry that was holding down Ultron! Sentry could have handed Thor his back side in Seige if it was not for the fact that he ALLOWED Thor to do him in. Yeah, Sentry is not the kind of guy you call in to fight Wrecker, Mystique or even Magneto. Sentry is the one you call when you need someone who can deal with Thanos!

    The writers did Sentry wrong and he should be back. Wonder man SHOULD NOT be on this list!
    The Mighty Avengers was one of the best teams ever for the 13 issues it lasted before going all to hell.

    I like Antman , Ares and even Black Widow but I would take Sentry and Moon Knight over them any day.

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    1. Lee Standberry at |

      Sentry is definitely a heavy hitter. The problem with guys with his kind of power level is that it become problematic to fit them into a team environment without them overshadowing everyone else. Writers usually deal with this by either annoyingly making the character less powerful than they are otherwise or (and equally annoying) making the villians a whole lot more powerful than normal. In Sentry’s case, they infused the guy with all these psychological issues that basically render him ineffective more often than not, or at least a shadow of his heroic “former’ days. Unfortunately, this tack leaves Sentry as 1) a team member who doesn’t fit cohesively with the rest of the team and 2) an uninteresting character that the reader would just as well prefer that the writer would forget about him.

      Superman commonly has this exact same issue with the League. How often has the JL fought a villian that Supes should have been able to wipe the floor with all on his own? Instead, you find the bad guy inexplicably giving Kal a run for his money. I find this really annoying.

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      1. fdx at |

        Sentry was a badly handled character from the start, Marvel wanted to create its own Superman but failed, storyline was confusing and character was too lunatic to last long. Also DC tried the “greatest hero of all time that nobody remembers” storyline with Triumph and also failed.
        I think readers appreciate new characters when they build their reputation one step at the time, having a new character appearing with no history that is supposed to be bigger than the big guy who’s been here since your daddy was in diapers, is not a good idea.

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  31. Jake at |

    Remove Moon Knight and replace him with Squirrel Girl

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  32. Richard at |

    Several problems with this list:

    1. What makes the Avenger lame? Out-of-universe lack of originality or bad writing or art choices? Or is it in-universe redundancy, instability or inability to function usefully on a team? Either could make a good list, but mixing them confuses the issue.

    Sentry works for both sets of reasons, but most of the rest are one or the other.

    2. Factual errors make it seem like the author didn’t bother to do any research before posting this. Examples:

    a.) The Swordsman’s sword was given to him when he worked for the Mandarin, and contains energy weapons, including a repulsor beam, a disintegration ray, an electrical arc generator that can stun like a taser or kill, a flame generator, and gas nozzles that can release tranquilizing neurotoxin. In other words, it’s not one distance weapon, it’s several. Not knowing that makes it look like you based your criticism on looking at the picture, and nothing else. Also, under the “cool heroes get a meaningful death rule,” Swordsman dies protecting the Celestial Madonna from Kang the Conqueror, then gets temporarily brought back to life to father the Celestial Messiah. Fairly meaningful.

    b.) Moon Knight does have powers, derived from the Egyptian god Khonshu, God of the Moon, Time and Vengeance. For instance, his strength, agility and endurance are higher at night, and wax and wane with the phases of the Moon, so that at night during a full Moon he has fairly significant superhuman abilities. He also has visions of past and future events granted by Khonshu. Oh, and he didn’t join the Avengers. Khonshu did. Khonshu possessed Moon Knight and joined the Avengers after Hawkeye had been sent to ancient Egypt and prayed to Khonshu to get a message to Moon Knight in the present to rescue him. After Khonshu stopped inhabiting the Moon Knight’s body, Moon Knight quit the team. So he’d probably agree he works better solo.

    If you want to do an article about a subject, it helps to research it first.

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    1. fdx at |

      I may be mistaken but think the author was thinking about Moon Knight’s run with the Secret Avengers, and you were mentioning West coast Avengers, which is, by the way, a great comic book.

      The whole point of this top ten was to be funny i guess, but i agree with you that characters are not necesarily good or bad avengers, it depends mostly of the work of the writer and, of course, the affinity this particular writer has with each character.

      Also, a team of superheroes is often composed of a big number of second choice heroes, the idea is to give those heroes some light because they’re not popular enough to have their own title. Cyclops would be a good example of a character who only exists through the X-Men. So, in the case of the avengers, it’s quite logical to have a core of popular heroes (Captain, Thor, Iron-Man), and then a circle of “not so popular heroes” (that doesn’t mean that there are not good characters) like Black Widow, Vision, Black Panther…. And then another circle of “who’s left in the official handbook of the Marvel Universe who isn’t dead yet or can be resuscitated “. Gilgamesh and D-Man belong clearly in this last circle.

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  33. Modigliani at |

    The writing of this was hilarious to me. Drew, if you have a Twitter, would like to follow and be amused.

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  34. LoneWolf at |

    Moon Knight? Really?
    Hes not as mentally handicapped as your thinking
    You a fan of superman, well i hate him because
    He was created to be the most overpowered superhero but can be killed with a glowing green rock

    it depends on how you describe them
    do your research and you’ll find out that Moon Knight is one of the most awesome Marvel Heroes out there

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  35. Jhylla at |

    If Starfox does get into an Avengers movie they could cast Matthew McConaughey.

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  36. Ben at |

    Moon Knight had powers. Look it up. US Agent, like another said, replaced Cap for a bit. He wasn’t intended to be CAP for the long run and there was some fights between them. He is more like Guy Garner, who is a GL that always pissed off Hal Jordan and the others. Arrogant and cocky, thinking he was better than the original.

    Moon Knight could be a good character, if done right. But he’s not really a top Marvel Character. But who knows what will happen with the Marvel NOW being slated to begin…

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  37. Disgusted at |

    Including Moon Knight on this list is the biggest noob mistake a writer could possibly make. I will avoid this website like the plague in the future.

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  38. Keith Holm at |

    The concept of MoonKnight was great. The original comics before he joined the Avengers were oustanding. After a while Marvel made him nothing more than a Batman clone. If they would have kept the egyptian theme to him and got better writers it could have been a great comic character.

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  39. Marcus at |

    There’s a lot wrong with this list. Swordsman has been revamped pretty well, and Moon Knight has turned into one of the coolest characters in Marvel. The two images you’ve shown of MK are totally awesome, so I don’t know who was in charge of making this list because, well…I’ll just assume he’s underpaid and indifferent.

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  40. Tim at |

    I could not stop laughing. This article was absolutely hilarious.

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  41. Pat M at |

    Ohh c’mon, really? You forgot Marvels salute’s to Yoko Ono and Persis Khambatta

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  43. Ahsan at |

    Us agent shouldn’t be put down he came is solely as a replacement for Cap Am or was on another Avengers team in Cap Am’ stead. I loved us Agent on the MIghty avengers, one of my favorite marvel teams! They shouldn’t have made him into a crippled has been!

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  44. Xonus at |

    Cockroach didn’t even make the list? Really? All he could do was fly and stink. That’s like having Thor wear a bug costume and rip a cosmic fart!

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  45. Danial at |

    Great to see all the Moon Knight love in the comments! :)

    For what it’s worth, the ONLY series where Moon Knight had multiple personality disorder was West Coast Avengers and Bendis’ latest run–a mere 32 of his 700-odd appearances. In EVERYTHING ELSE, the identities of Jake Lockley and Steven Grant are merely guises to gather information, and who’s to say if his visions of Khonshu are real or not. It’s never explicitly been explained.

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  46. Relic at |

    Here’s a few more lame-os :
    Paste-Pot Pete, Angus the Screamer, and a really obscure character, Goody Two-Shoes, who i think only had one appearance in the short-lived Thing series.

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  47. JJ at |

    Okay, I’m not sure if you mean the ten worst team players if so I could agree with you on some points, if you mean the ten avengers you actually think are lame then you truly have INFURIATED me, let me tell you some of what I think.

    Wolverine-Over exposed should have only stayed on one team.

    The Sentry-Over powered he seriously upstaged the rest of the team.

    Starfox-Too gross.

    Gilgamesh-Redundant

    The Thing, Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman-they are just not necessary avengers characters.

    I think these characters I just mentioned don’t really fit in with the other avengers team but I would never EVER EVER say that they are lame. As for U.S. Agent, Moon Knight and Swordsman they made fine Avengers not my favorites but they were still cool, as for the rest of your list I could say I agree.

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  48. Nikhil at |

    Hey, sentry rocks dude. He defeated hulk during world war hulk, wat more you want from him?

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