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  1. John N at |

    Great list! I learned a lot from it.

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  2. Equalizer at |

    How about Theory of Evolution? States that all Scientists who believes in this theory evolved from monkeys.

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    1. Lou at |

      You operate under a common fallacy from most of the creationist: we did not "evolve from monkeys" or any ape as you know today. What Darwin said is the modern day primates evolved from a common ancestor, which would not be a "monkey" in the modern conception of the term.

      Besides, it's been shown that gorillas share 98.6% of the same DNA as humans. I'm prouder to be related to them than some "humans".

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    2. Jose at |

      Yet another ignorant person talking about something they know nothing about. I suppose the theory of an all-powerful god creating the universe and that the earth is 10,000 years old is a more plausible theory, one which offers no explanation what-so-ever.

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      1. Equalizer at |

        I'd rather be proud that my ancestors are "human being-ignorant" rather than evolved from "monkeys".

        Those who believes that they came from Monkeys, please put your believes to yourself. Don't include us in your Evolution Dreams…

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        1. Equalizer at |

          If you believe that your great-great ancestors can be found in the zoo then I'm happy for you.

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          1. sari at |

            If you actually took the time to read Darwin's theory of evolution you would know he never claimed we came from monkeys. What he said was that we shared a common ancestor. There is a lot of proof of evolution: you have to read about it to understand. Your argument is based on ignorance, which in its self is a failed "science".

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        2. PARTY at |

          "…please put your believes to yourself."

          Don't you mean, "Please keep your beliefs to yourself," as a literate person would say? You're closer to a monkey than you might think, Mr. "Proud to have ignorant human beings as ancestors."

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        3. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

          Your comment reveals more about your personal ignorance than I think you would like. Evolution states that both humans and other anthropoids evolved from a common ancestor.

          There are thousands of pieces of proof of this and evolution in museums, universities and laboratories all over the world. There is not a single bit of proof of creationism anywhere.

          BTW, it’s “beliefs” not “believes”. Learn to use a spell checker and please don’t put your beliefs in a book of badly-translated, politically edited collection of myths and lies.

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      2. ironflange at |

        Please, don't feed the troll.

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        1. Boxcar Worthington at |

          It's too late.

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        2. beast at |

          hahaha

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          1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

            hahaha? Exactly the type of uninformed, senseless comment I would expect from someone that has nothing intelligent to say but thinks that anything they post will be regarded as witty and devastatingly accurate.

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    3. YogiBarrister at |

      Equalizer, do believe that your ancestors evolved from the Neanderthals? They were "human being ignorant" also, made tools and communicated verbally. Do you know that you are much more closely related to chimpanzees (who also make tools and speak BTW) than to Neanderthals? I realize we are wasting our time trying to educate you, your parents did you a grave diservice by instilling such nitwittery into that highly evolved brain of yours.

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      1. Equalizer at |

        YogiBarrister, I'm happy to know that your father is a Neanderthal and your Mother is a Chimpanzee.

        I will keep that in my highly evolved brain.

        Thank you for the info…

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        1. andrei at |

          hi i live outside the usa. only in recent years i have hurd about ppl like mr equalize here. i can't believe that people in this day and age can be so brain washed and uneducated. i feel sorry for you.

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          1. Equalizer at |

            Andrei I feel sorry about you too. Better learn to spell English correctly before calling someone uneducated.

            Tip: type first your comment on MSWord then cut paste here.

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          2. Thos Weatherby at |

            Your not uneducated if you don’t believe 100% in evolution. If evolution exists then God would have created it. How is it that people like you would believe in the Anunnaki or fallen angels but not other aspects of the Bible. Problem is, we don’t understand much about evolution in the first place. A new book by Robert Felix does bring evolution to a new level. I really think someday science and religion will become one. Science just needs to catch up.

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          3. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

            Don’t worry about Equalizer. As I noted above, his English is no better than yours nor does he understand the use of a spell checker. That’s only the start of his willful ignorance but it’s enough for now.

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        2. James Smith Jo&atild at |

          Equalizer: It's ignorant theists like you that have contributed so much to the dumbing down of America. You are the one that should keep his nonsensical ideas to himself instead of trying to enact your personal stupidity into law.

          Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been, caused by religion. Mankind will never truly be free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth, logic, and reason.

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          1. Thos Weatherby at |

            You talk about giving facts. I haven't seen 1 fact from you. I have seen name calling, personal attacks and a total lack of respect for other posters. I'm glad you're smarter than the rest of us. But there are ideas and greatness still out there. You claim truth, logic and reason but when it comes to the hoax of Global Warming you don't apply the same rules. Where are your facts? Where is your truth? You asked me where was my fact about Mormons being more intellectual. This comes from a study at UCSB tracking intelligence and different religions and non religions. Just because you knew some Mormons in Arizona doesn't impress me. Once again, I would like to see your facts and maybe a bit more respect for the rest of us.

            Thos Weatherby PhD Astrophysics – Planetary Studies

            UT

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          2. James Smith Jo&Atild at |

            OK, let's take on global warming first. Are you saying that the ice caps are not melting, the glaciers disappearing, and the sea levels rising? That the average world temperature isn't rising? If you do, you are more foolish than you sound. These are measured, easily verifiable facts.

            What is not clear, and most global warming realists agree, is the exact causes. Human intervention? Probably but also probably not the only cause. There are too many other likely factors and not all are easily measured. But global warming is a fact easily recognizable by people capable of intelligent thought processes.

            You claim that Mormons are smarter than other people? Where is your evidence for that? As a group, they might place more value on some aspects of education than many, but that doesn't mean they are smarter. But I suspect that is a distinction that escapes someone that would rather believe fantasies than facts.

            What you think are insults are simply statements of observed behavior that verify the statements. If you resent the statements, modify your behavior.

            You want respect? Then stop acting like a moron.

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          3. Thos Weatherby at |

            You made some statements that were not true. Let's discuss Gullible Warming. You mentioned that the glaciers were melting and the Polar caps were melting. Sorry but you're wrong. Try these sites. I can send you 50 more.

            http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1245636/Ghttp://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarhttp://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/whttp://www.news.com.au/antarctic-ice-is-growing-n

            Now as for the oceans rising. Not happening.

            Dr. Morner is an expert on ocean levels. He has written over 25% of ALL scientific papers on the subject.

            http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/chr

            Here's some more facts.

            From Climatic History of the Holocene, by James S. Abe has written that the ocean levels are now shrinking. Not rising.

            Please stop with the personal attacks. You're showing a great deal of immaturity and your bias and naivete on the subject.

            Why did Mars warm up more than Earth? Why did Venus warm up more than Earth? Why is Pluto going through a warming period. It warmed up over 12 degrees C.

            I still haven't heard or seen any facts from you. How about this picture.

            http://www.iceagenow.com/Construction_Crane_Burie

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          4. James Smith Jo&Atild at |

            Weatherby, you are either a liar, a fool, or else both. Just because there are other people that deny obvious facts, that doesn't make them or you correct.

            Perhaps you have not seen the photographs of the ice caps and glaciers disappearing? Perhaps you have not read of the pacific islands slowly being inundated by rising sea levels? More likely, you choose to ignore these facts because they don't support your own ignorance.

            I am finished with you.

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          5. archworf at |

            May I say, ironically, "Amen!"?

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      2. Thos Weatherby at |

        The Neanderthals went extinct. They would have evolved from Cro Magnon. But evolutionist have a tough time explaining why there were two species and where they both came from.

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    4. James Smith Jo&atild at |

      The FACTS are, there are thousands of pieces of evidence of evolution in museums, laboratories, and universities around the world. There is not one piece of evidence of creationism anywhere in the world.

      Furthermore, evolution does NOT state that humans evolved from monkeys, but that both evolved from a common ancestor. Once again, the ignorance of the religious reich exposes itself.

      "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt." There is no longer any doubt about you, religion and "creation science". All are foolish, ignorant, and should be eliminated from the earth.

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    5. Q. at |

      You’re really mature

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      1. James Smith Jo�£o Pessoa, Brazil at |

        I presume you meant that as a compliment. Perhaps because I use facts and speak the truth? If I say something is ignorant or stupid, it’s because someone has demonstrated that through their posts.

        If you are being sarcastic, you don’t do that very well. If you think I have not been mature, perhaps you would give specific examples or solid evidence? Evidence, truth, and provable statements do have meaning for you? Or not?

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  3. YogiBarrister at |

    Here's the thing Equalizer. Even if the theory of evolution is disproved, someone like Jose, who studies the science of it and ignores the twatwafflery coming from the religious right, is going to end up a lot smarter than you. He will be more likely to be able to provide for his offspring, therefore his genes will be passed on to future generations. Maybe if you're lucky, your children can work for Jose's children, but only if you break the vicious cycle of ignorance and teach them how to think critically.

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    1. Equalizer at |

      Actually because of my in-depth capacity for abstract reasoning and critical analysis evolved brain, Jose and his children works for me. I tell to my children that we're far more superior than those monkeys.

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      1. YogiBarrister at |

        Equalizer says:

        March 15, 2010 at 11:30 am

        Andrei I feel sorry about you too. Better learn to spell English correctly before calling someone uneducated.

        Equalizer says:

        March 15, 2010 at 12:16 pm

        Actually because of my in-depth capacity for abstract reasoning and critical analysis evolved brain, Jose and his children works for me. I tell to my children that we’re far more superior than those monkeys.

        Yes Mr. Pot, your children are far superior to those pitch black kettle monkeys.

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      2. Mors_Ontologica at |

        It’s called the Flynn Effect.

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    2. david at |

      i believe in evolution. but as a person who has seen the movie idiocracy will tell u, the smart have less kids then the dumb and ignorant, so as much as i hate to say it, were gonna be seeing a lot more equalizers around. anyways i believe in evolution my family does, and so do most of my friends and when i have kids so will they, but if some ppl wanna believe it doesnt exist, i say let them, as long as they dont bother me with their ignorance i wont bother them with intelligence

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      1. James Smith Jo&atild at |

        The more intelligent people have fewer (not less) children because they are more moral and socially responsible. They know that over population (especially with ignorant theists) is the largest problem facing humanity today. I'm also sure you meant "than" instead of "then".

        It's also "we're" as in "we are". There is an apostrophe in "doesn't, don't", and "won't". You might also consider reconstructing your text to include a few periods to reduce the run-on sentences. You could also try ending a sentence with a period when you do finally run out of things to say, too. Finally, "gonna" and "wanna" are not real words. Try spelling out "you" and "people" so you sound a little less illiterate.

        Not to worry, you won't bother anyone with your intelligence and education.

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        1. Thos Weatherby at |

          Have to disagree with your statement. Having children has nothing to do with being more morally and socially responsible. There is no over population. Every family on this planet could have a quarter acre of land and everyone would fit inside the state of Texas. During the Renaissance the family size was larger than that of today. When the American Founding Fathers wrote our constitution, the family size was large than today's family. Mormons who have large families are more intelligent than the average family in the US.

          And Porto Alegre, Sao Paulo, Rio, Belo Horizonte, and Fortaleza all have larger families than Harare in Zimbabwe. Are those citizens more morally and socially responsible than all of those cities in Brazil?

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          1. James Smith Jo&Atild at |

            You are so ignorant it staggers the imagination. Yes, there is overpopulation. The 7+ billion people on the planet are destroying the earth with pollution, habitat destruction and the heat output of ever-increasing energy use.

            You are wrong on so many level that it would take a book to elaborate them and explain the reasons,

            Mormons are more intelligent? Since when and where is your proof? I lived in Arizona among them and they are just as stupid, uninformed and arrogant about it as you.

            What a disgusting example of a human being you are. You are the poster chlld for stupidity.

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          2. Mors_Ontologica at |

            “…are more intelligent than…”

            IQ, which I assume you mean, is only one limited scope of intelligence, and anyways, intelligence doesn’t matter one pound of green flaming zebra **** if it is not used.

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  4. YogiBarrister at |

    Equalizer, you're not terribly perceptive are you? The point is, if you simply say God created everything and don't explore things in greater depth, you won't develop the capacity for abstract reasoning and critical analysis necessary to survive.

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    1. Thos Weatherby at |

      I could turn your message around and say the same thing. Somewhere back in time there had to be an intelligence that created what we now have. Maybe it’s not in the Bible. But you need to develop the capacity for abstract reasoning and critical analysis necessary to survive. Or to at least understand or try to understand the implications of what you are saying.

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  5. Jed Rothwell at |

    You are completely wrong about cold fusion. It was replicated thousands of times in hundreds of major labs, and these replications were published in hundreds of peer reviewed papers. In recent months, a major conference on cold fusion was sponsored by the Italian DoE, Physical Society and Chemical Society, the U.S. NRL published a major breakthrough, and the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency recommended increased funding for this research.

    For more on this subject, see:

    http://lenr-canr.org

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  6. Bennie Tucker at |

    Great list!

    Very Interest.

    Oh and Mr "Equaliser" is clear proof that evolution occasionally backtracks <_<

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    1. Equalizer at |

      Who's "Equaliser" ???

      TIP: Used MSWord and used spell check <_<

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      1. Bennie Tucker at |

        I'm English, we spell it with an "s".

        Check ms word, no red underline… unless you have a different version to me.

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    2. Mors_Ontologica at |

      Evolution can never Back-trekk. it can only move forward in ways that seem to mimic earlier stages. Proof: whales, as far as we can tell, are not fish. They are whales.

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      1. Thos Weatherby at |

        What about the whale. Came from the sea, evolved on land, then backtracked back into the sea.

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  7. Ahmad at |

    lol, #9 (Spontaneous Generation) is still believed by Evolutionists today. They say that life originated from muddy water when lightening struck it. Imagine a complex amoeba with all its cell functions arising because lighting struck some mud lol!

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    1. sari at |

      No they don’t! Science is not sure how life was started, which is why they cannot recreate it. I am not sure where you read this, but a little fact checking would not hurt.

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      1. Phil E. Drifter at |

        Actually, they have recreated it, simulating conditions that would most likely have existed 6 billion years ago, using commonly available proteins and an electric charge.

        Evolution has also been proved, too, by flash-freezing every 100,000 generation of bacteria kept with 2 substances: one it could digest for food/reproduction, and another it could not. And around the time it reached it's 400,000 generation, one sample had evolved to be able to digest both supplies.

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        1. ctjbush at |

          Evolution

          Definition: Organic evolution is the theory that the first living organism developed from lifeless matter. Then, as it reproduced, it is said, it changed into different kinds of living things, ultimately producing all forms of plant and animal life that have ever existed on this earth. All of this is said to have been accomplished without the supernatural intervention of a Creator. Some persons endeavor to blend belief in God with evolution, saying that God created by means of evolution, that he brought into existence the first primitive life forms and that then higher life forms, including man, were produced by means of evolution. Not a Bible teaching.

          Regarding the question of how life originated, astronomer Robert Jastrow said: “To their chagrin [scientists] have no clear-cut answer, because chemists have never succeeded in reproducing nature’s experiments on the creation of life out of nonliving matter. Scientists do not know how that happened.” He added: “Scientists have no proof that life was not the result of an act of creation

          Romans 1:20 — For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable

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          1. Mors_Ontologica at |

            I would say

            Evolution: by the survivability, determined by success of reproduction, of a given trait or traits, the successive generations become more likely to reproduce, thereby creating a reproductive environment that will support those traits. The theory of evolution is not limited to biology (Memes as well as Genes as well as all kinds of other things), so please don't limit it to that scope.

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        2. Thos Weatherby at |

          The Earth wasn’t around 6BYA. And they didn’t create life. They just made amino acids which are included in life. Big difference. Only parts of Evolution have been proved. But we can not create life yet. Maybe the Bible is correct when it comes to the Annunaki.

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    2. Thos Weatherby at |

      No they don’t say that. You may want to read Robert Felix’s book on Evolution.

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  8. YogiBarrister at |

    The cosmic irony is that disbelief in evolution is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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  9. Kennypo65 at |

    Actually Einstein's theory predicted that the universe was expanding, but because that had not yet been discovered, Einstein created his cosmological constant. If ignorance is bliss why are creationists so angry?

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    1. Shirley at |

      I'm going take a stab at your question "If ignorance is bliss why are creationists so angry?" I used to be a Christian I don't claim to be one now but the knowledge of the teachings are still there. In church they teach God created the heavens and the Earth in six days and rested on the seventh. These are absolute, they don't change not even to conform to a more scientific view. In fact, I read in a Christian science school book , that even someone like myself should be in the same category as an atheist. You see, I believe in creationism but I believe that one day can be a million to God. We don't know what a day is for God. I mean for us a day is 24 hours but on a planet like Venus a day is 243 Earth days so who knows what a day would be for God. The "anger" can only be described as a brainwashing. During this time frame in which I attended church and was a Christian I kept journals of all my thoughts. I will not read these journals because of the amount of judgment I was placing on other people. The amount of hate and disgust that I felt toward those who were different than myself was all wrong. They teach you to be this way. The outrage they feel is because they are taught to have extreme faith in the entire Bible and any other ideas are wrong. When you have someone that is well beyond that and they question, "why?" they bump you to Sunday School teacher so they no longer need to answer your questions during Bible study because any other ideas are wrong and the Bible is absolute. Many of those who have the extreme belief don't have museums to show them that man is actually a lot older than a couple of thousand years old. I grew up looking at "Lucy," where I live now has art museums and nothing more (most of the art is from the area nothing cool like a Picasso or Renoir.) The anger is because many don't read beyond the Bible.

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      1. TK at |

        I don’t know which church you were at. The whole “hate your enemy and treat them badly because they don’t believe what you do” is VERY VERY anti-biblical. That isn’t to say that Christians aren’t supposed to reach out to their world. But Christians are supposed to say everything with kindness and grace.

        I’m sorry you had that experience, but it isn’t what the bible says.

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        1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

          It IS what the bible says. Read it and note the genocide, murder and destruction of non-believers.

          Furthermore, it doesn’t matter what the bible says. It’s what people do. Do you deny that religions split into factions over relatively minor points of theology? DO you deny that wars have been fought over these same things?

          Instead of repeating the brainwashing you have received, observe reality.

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          1. Eh? at |

            Not really.. Look at Matthew 5:44. “But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you”. Exact opposite of your claim that it says “Hate your enemy and treat them badly”.

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          2. Eh? at |

            And as far as “It doesn’t matter what the bible says, it’s what people do”… So it’s the bible’s fault people decide to disobey and be hateful? To do evil?

            That’s naive, if that is what you’re saying. If it is not, I apologize. The fact is, this world could be perfect and have no evil whatsoever… The cost? We wouldn’t have free will.

            There’s just so much archaelogical proof that the Bible is accurate. How much is there that it is false? And of that, how much is from somebody who will honestly say,. “No, I’m not just trying to disprove the Bible. I honestly went in with a completely open mind and this is what I discovered.”? Every piece of so-called “Proof that the Bible is false,” I’ve seen has had one thing in common… The discoverer ADMITTED that he (or she, in some cases) simply wanted to prove the bible wrong.

            I don’t particularly feel any hatred to those who do not believe what I do, nor will I try to force one to believe as I do. I encourage everybody to look at all the facts with no presuppositions that tend to taint the minds of.. almost everybody, whether they believe or not. I do not really think many will (so many people shout “NO! NEVER!” when asked, “If I proved to you beyond a reasonable doubt that God exists and the Bible is accurate, would you believe?”, and it’s a shame. It’s also a shame that those that believe have a similar response when asked if they could be shown with 100% certainty that it is false/), and so long as you don’t badmouth me for believing, I will have no issue with you. I have several atheist pals, and… they tend to despise other atheists. Because, “If you’re going to be an atheist, hate all religions equally, don’t just bash Christianity. The majority do just bash the one, and it disgusts me.”

            Again, look at the evidence for yourself, weigh it all, and decide. That is all I want those that may read this to do. If you do not want to believe then, then so be it, at least you’ll have (most likely) learned a few things along the way and I have as much respect for those who don’t (or say they can’t) believe (at least if they are ones) that truly weighed the evidence. It has converted more than one who set out to disprove the Bible, though: http://www.angelfire.com/sc3/myredeemer/Evidencep11.html

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        2. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

          @eh The bible is full of contradictions, myths, and lies. It also baldly states violence, murder and even genocide are acceptable to “god”.

          Here’s another quote for you:

          Matthew 10:34: “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”

          Sure, love and peace.

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          1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

            @eh. BTW, looking at all the evidence is exactly what you should do. Read the bible as if it had just been released and you and never heard of any religion. Make an impartial consideration of what it says. Compare the various contradictions, I have a large, but partial list if you need it.

            I would like to know exactly whom it converted. I am willing to bet that far more have been de-converted from reading the bible than have ever been converted. That includes myself.

            “Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” Isaac Asimov

            Disproving the bible is ridiculously easy, all it takes is that impartial reading.

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            1. TopTenz Master at |

              It takes faith to believe in anything. At some point you take a leap. Even if it is to not believe in God. Then what started everything? What/who created everything from nothing? You and everyone in the world puts their faith in some belief about our beginnings. I and many others have chosen to put that faith in God. Why does this anger you so much? If you chose NOT to believe, that is your choice and that is where your faith goes. My church helps thousands of people through its outreach and my wife just returned from a medical missions trip to Niger. All because our our Christian faith. It’s a good thing.

          2. the dumb ox at |

            Totally taken out of out of context.

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          3. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

            “Taken out of context”? Exactly how? It’s easy to say something that sounds good when you don’t bother to give any proof. I say prove what you say or admit you just like to believe things because they make you feel smug and secure.

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          4. TK at |

            The FULL context is below. Jesus was using the phrase “I did not come to bring peace, but a sword” metaphorically, as any thinking person can glean from the context (see below). Chuck Smith put it this way: “The gospel of Jesus Christ unifies men, it brings together a tax collector and a Zelote, but the gospel of Jesus Christ also divides men. It divides men into two categories: those who are apart of the kingdom of God, and those who are apart of the kingdom of darkness. But Jesus divides men as well as unifies men and many times Jesus divides those within a household. A child comes into the kingdom of light, but the father continues to rebel in the kingdom of darkness, and so division comes, and a difference comes.”

            Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

            Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

            Mat 10:36 And a man’s foes [shall be] they of his own household.

            Mat 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

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          5. TK at |

            James Smith, it seems like you just want to fight. That was Jesus’ point: People who don’t believe in His teachings will fight with those who do. Your out-of-context quotation was blatantly misconstrued to mean something it did not, I corrected it with a direct quote that clarified the situation, and you lashed out angrily back at me.

            As for me, I’m not going to argue or repeatedly call you violent, stupid, an idiot, or intolerant. I WILL clarify glaringly inaccurate statements so that people can make an educated decision. But I’m not getting into troll wars with you or anyone else. That isn’t what Jesus taught.

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      2. melike3 at |

        You are correct in your idea of not literal days.

        (2 Peter 3:8) However, let this one fact not be escaping YOUR notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.

        keep searching for answers!

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        1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

          Scientists all over the world are always searching for answers. But not in the bible. It is nothing more than a badly translated, politically edited collection of myths and lies.

          Yes, it does contain a few events that are historically accurate and can be verified from other sources. That doesn’t make any of the rest of it true. For example:

          On the 11th of September, 2001, two commercial aircraft flew into the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, killing thousands.

          Some people believe that this was an act of terrorism by an Islamic fundamentalist organization.

          It was really the power of my god directing those planes to warn the people of the USA and the world to abandon their wicked ways and praise the only true god.

          The first sentence is unquestionable historic fact. The last sentence is a delusional lie but is impossible to prove to be false. The â??truthâ?? of all â??holy booksâ?? is based upon this same technique.

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    2. BuddyLama at |

      “If ignorance is bliss why are creationists so angry?” –Exxxcellent!

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      1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

        @TopTenzMaster

        It does not “take faith” to know there is no god. All it takes is an objective examination of the facts.

        Missionaries sometimes do good works. But they never do it without the proselyting string attached.

        FYI “faith” and “belief” both mean “to accpet something as true with no supporting evidence or even with evidence against it.” That’s the basis of all religion.

        Please note that I often invite people to demonstrate, with proof, anything I post that is not true. Not one person has ever done so. Does that suggest anything to you?

        You believe your god started everything from nothing. Doesn’t that contradict what you said? Instead of repeating the same old theist arguments, how about examining the genuine evidence?

        Science readily admits that not everything is known. Religion insists it has the answer for it all and does not permit any questions. That is an act of intellectual cowards, not of rational, open-minded thinkers.

        Science modifies its theories and statements when new, verifiable evidence is presented. Religion has to be dragged, kicking and screaming, from the dark ages. Many, but not all, theists have yet to make that trip.

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  10. Hamid at |

    Good compilation and explanation….

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  11. Tasmanian Devil at |

    I prefer to believe that life was created when a giant tortoise farted six and a half years ago. It only feels longer because we were trapped in a magic hour-glass by an evil emperor who altered our memories. I don't have any scientific evidence to back this up but because I believe it to be true I dont feel I need any. In fact, when people claim my beliefs are idiotic I just stand there with my fingers in my ears going la-la-la-la.

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    1. david at |

      hmm sounds similiar to something ive heard preached

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    2. Boss B at |

      Now THAT is hilarious.

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  12. matt at |

    A theory is not a hypothesis. Stop being ignorant. When theory appears in this article, it should be replaced with hypothesis.

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  13. Whuffo at |

    Let us not forget AGW which will be in the next version of this list.

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    1. TopTenz Master at |

      You are referring to Anthropogenic (man-made) global warming, yes?

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  14. Kay at |

    Why are we argueing about evolution? It has nothing to do with this list.

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    1. david at |

      because its fun to argue

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    2. Jay Estux at |

      Yes, Exactly why are we arguing about evolution, okay everybody hates it, forget about it and lets argue about more recent theories which scientist claim are true and great theories which quite frankly I think are a load of bull.

      Such theories woulld be:

      String Theory: The universe is made up of unimaginable amounts of strings and has elevn dimension which are too small to see so we can only perceive the 3. Who came up with this. This sounds no better than a greek philosopher’s theory of the universe.

      Big Bang Theory: 14 billion years ago there was a giant spontaneus explosion which created the univers. Sounds like a story you would tell a three year here it is translated into story language, “Once upon a time, far far away, long long ago in the vast nothingness there was a tiny spark. The spark produced a flame, the flame turned into a fireball, the fireball grew and grew and grew in size till it covered the whole nothingness. The fireball cooled leaving us with trees, rocks, buildings and everything around us”. What caused this explosion? Something must have caused not just it caused itself.

      The Higgs Boson: a particle which gives particle’s mass dependant on how particles move through it. Our entire universe is filled with Higgs particles but we can’t see it, can’t feel, can’t detect it, can’t sense it, can’t find any effects, can’t visualise it, IT DOES NOT EXIST.

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      1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

        OK, give us one piece of evidence that anything you say has any substance at all. You make claims without proof because you think that, if you personally believe something enough, it MUST be true. That’s the normal position of people that like to assign supernatural explanations to anything they do not understand. “God did it” is much easier than thinking, isn’t it?

        Your statements are what are “a load of bull.”

        Keep in mind that, “Beliefs, no matter how sincerely held, do not alter facts.”

        You might also want to learn the difference between a scientific hypothesis and a scientific theory. That doesn’t take much learning or even thinking. All that will be hurt is your ignorant world view and that could use some adjusting.

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        1. the dumb ox at |

          You are correct . Evolution is true. God did it.

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          1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

            “God did it?” What god? Where is your proof of that?

            “God did it” is much easier than thinking, isn’t it?

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  15. smg45acp at |

    "Acquired Characteristics" should be on this list.

    Darwin quite wrongly believed that if you cut off the tails of mice for a hundred years that mice would eventually be born without tails.
    With the discovery of genetics we now know this to be completely false.

    Interestingly it was evolutionists that suppressed the study of genetics for over 20 years because it conflicted with their belief in evolution.
    It was only after some one came up with the theory that evolution could happen through mutations that the study of genetics was able to proceed.

    My point being that you should not delude yourself that the evolutionists are the pure scientists without any agenda and only wanting to discovery the truth.
    Many are just as hard-core closed-minded fundamentalist as any as any religious fundamentalist.

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    1. TopTenz Master at |

      Amen to that. 😉

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    2. Bennie Tucker at |

      That was Lamarck not Darwin… which kind of disproves your whole subsequent "argument".

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    3. Mors_Ontologica at |

      Thank GOD (or not, as your preference may be)! somebody finally gets it.

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    4. Thos Weatherby at |

      Well just look at the, lack of science, when it comes to Global Warming. They start to treat the environment like a religion. How many people who believe in evolution, complain that religious people are ignorant and don’t look at the facts, then turn around are become those same type of people who believe in Global Warming and don’t look at the facts themselves.

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  16. andrew at |

    Comment to the last paragraph: it's not "nuclear reaction" it's "nuclear fission". Wiki the difference.

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  17. Jim Fowler at |

    The currently held views in physics about "the big bang and the origin of the universe" is a huge wad of Biblical gooblygook. Time, Space, Matter, and Energy/Sentience are still very poorly understood and Creationist explanations are highly unlikely to be valid answers. The Big Bang still tries to make something out of nothing… Time without beginning is much more likely…

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  18. eviltwin at |

    All you creationists/evolutionists need to chill!

    …may you all be touched by His Noodly Appendage…

    Peace & Pasta to all.

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    1. Francis E Dec esquir at |

      Damn straight, praise Bob and pass the slack!

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    2. Musemistress at |

      All hail the mighty Flying Spaghetti Monster. And bring back the pirates, it all went wrong when they went away :(

      – A duly devoted Pastafarian

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  19. John at |

    Cold fusion breakthrough about a year ago.
    http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/us-navy-scientists

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  20. Toptez.net Failure at |

    Your picture for philosopher John Locke is of John Locke from the show Lost. Figure out your sources rather than doing a quick google copy/paste.

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  21. ctjbush at |

    Evolution

    Definition: Organic evolution is the theory that the first living organism developed from lifeless matter. Then, as it reproduced, it is said, it changed into different kinds of living things, ultimately producing all forms of plant and animal life that have ever existed on this earth. All of this is said to have been accomplished without the supernatural intervention of a Creator. Some persons endeavor to blend belief in God with evolution, saying that God created by means of evolution, that he brought into existence the first primitive life forms and that then higher life forms, including man, were produced by means of evolution. Not a Bible teaching.

    Regarding the question of how life originated, astronomer Robert Jastrow said: “To their chagrin [scientists] have no clear-cut answer, because chemists have never succeeded in reproducing nature’s experiments on the creation of life out of nonliving matter. Scientists do not know how that happened.” He added: “Scientists have no proof that life was not the result of an act of creation

    Romans 1:20 — For his invisible [qualities] are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable

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  22. sage at |

    Aristotle had a lot of inane ideas. Aristotelian logic for a start.

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    1. James Smith Jo&atild at |

      Perhaps you would like to educate us on exactly how it was inane? Or do you simply make inane accusations without proof?

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  23. ian whyler at |

    they are all pants theorys

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  24. Thos Weatherby at |

    Not to sure about the expanding Earth. In the last few years there has been mounting evidence that may support this theory. Actually, one can venture on to YouTube and watch the latest ideas on this topic. I don't think this one has been settled yet.

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    1. James Smith Jo&atild at |

      Exactly what evidence? That there are kooks on Youtube? Most rational people already knew that. Maybe you're another one that likes to throw out silly ideas hoping that people will accept them with no verifiable proof. Come on, convince me.

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      1. Thos Weatherby at |

        The first bit of evidence is that even through a static Earth, the positioning of the major plates don't exactly match up. Why does the mid Atlantic Ridge spread apart in many places. Plate tectonics don't explain this movement. But a Earth that is growing larger just might. Also, the mineral dispersion is better explained by a growing planet rather than our planet being the same size for all these years.

        The pressures of the core would model our sun. You might want to read two books from Robert Felix. Not by Fire but by Ice, and Magnetic Reversals and Evolutionary Leaps. Might just change your thoughts of how evolution works too.

        And please spare me the "rational People" talk. True rational people will listen to new ideas and expand them from there. If it's only plate tectonics then explain to me the physics behind it. You can't. Looks like we may all be in the same boat.

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        1. James Smith Jo&Atild at |

          You think that is evidence? If the earth is expanding, why does the distances between place remain the same? Why does the measured circumference of the planet not change? Why does the gravitational force not change.

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          1. Thos Weatherby at |

            The distances do not remain the same. The circumference is not static. It's actually increased over the last 40 years. And the gravitational force has changed. Why is the moon getting further away from Earth every day.

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        2. James Smith Jo&Atild at |

          Weatherby, you make totally ridiculous statements without a shred of proof. Show us proof that the circumference of the earth has expanded. Yes, the moon is receding very slightly at the rate of a few millimeters a year. But that is explained by orbital mechanics. How would the Earth expanding cause that? If anything, it would become closer as the Earth expands.

          But when you are espousing and nonsensical idea, facts just get in the way, don't they?

          I will not spare you the rational people talk. I'll keep it up until you either go away from embarrassment or until you start to become rational yourself.

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          1. Thos Weatherby at |

            I'm still waiting for your proof. You are quick to criticize others for their lack of proof but you offer none of your own. Your shallow. See if you can follow this and give me the facts to disprove it.

            Subduction’s fatal flaw is easily demonstrated. Cup both hands, thumbs together, to represent Wegener's single Pangaean landmass covering one hemisphere of an imaginary fixed-diameter Earth, with Panthalassa (the eo-Pacific Ocean) occupying the rest of the planet.

            Then, to portray creation of the Atlantic Ocean, slowly move the hands apart and slide them around this imaginary globe (the left hand representing North and South America; the right hand representing Eurasia/Africa and Australia, with the Atlantic Ocean opening up between them). Now, observe what happens to the Pacific basin on the opposite side of the globe as the Atlantic basin keeps widening in conformity with plate tectonics dogma.

            Note that, as the continents are pushed around the planet under pressure of an ever-widening Atlantic Ocean, a fixed, unchanging diameter would result in subduction eventually swallowing the entire Pacific Ocean basin—IN SPITE OF continuous propagation of new ocean seafloor at the rate of ~80-160 mm/yr (~3-1/4 to ~6-1/2 in/yr) along the hyperactive East Pacific Rise (EPR) west of South America (the most active volcanic area on the planet) right in the middle of the supposed subduction area. (This is also a volatile heat source directly beneath the area where El Niños are spawned by heated Pacific waters.)

            If carried to its ultimate conclusion, subduction would cause North and South America to be moved half way around the planet from the western edge of Pangaea to the eastern edge of Pangaea, ending up against Asia and Australia after having eliminated the entire Pacific Ocean! This would occur in spite of the massive growth of new seafloor in the Pacific along the East Pacific Rise, which is today expanding the width of the Pacific Ocean basin.

            The good news is that this simple demonstration provides a method to determine which of the two processes, subduction or expansion, is correct simply by measuring any change in width of the Pacific Ocean basin. In order to prove subduction, the Pacific basin must rapidly decrease in size in order to accommodate the continuous growth occurring in the other oceans of the world. However, any increase in size would confirm that the Earth is increasing in diameter, surface area, and circumference.

            And the moon recedes about 3.8cm per year not a "few millimeters" as you stated.

            I know you won't "spare me" the rational talk. You don't have any rational facts. Please go out and get an education. Oh and according to NASA's tracking, the earthquake that hit off the coast of Sumatra in 2004 increased Earths diameter by 3.2mm.

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  25. arthur at |

    actually the one that I am suprised is missing is the big bang theory. The Big bang theory states that at one time all the energy in the universe was at one time concentrated into one mass which then exploded outward forming over time planets and stars and galaxies. the only problem with that is that its a scientific fact that matter cannot pop into existance ( you cant take nothing and get something from it) so were did all the matter come from. I would also like to point out that if the matter had "always been there" than all its energy would have been used up literately an eternity ago.

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    1. Thos Weatherby at |

      First it is NOT a scientific fact about matter popping into existence. it's the other way around. The belief is matter CAN just pop into existence. The big bank started with a singularity. A singularity contains infinite mass. So it already had the mass when it 'exploded'. By definition, are universe is inside a black hole. You may want to investigate the latest in parallel universes. And you can not use up energy. You can convert it, into other energy or mass. Maybe this is how mass can suddenly appear.

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  26. Mors_Ontologica at |

    It seems that most of you have forgotten what it's like to be human. Here's a suggestion: perhaps it is not the truths of things that matter as much as what our collective beliefs tell us about our own limited human sensibilities. After all, it is environmental functionality–however we manage it–that is the overarching concern here. Belief may be as close as most, or even all, of us will ever know (whatever the hell "knowledge" means). Here's what I mean: Darwinian Evolution, Creationism, cutting-edge atomic theory (most, but by no means all, of which resembles retrograde motion, and we all know how that turned out…), et alii ad nauseam, are all incorrect as facts, but they are not necessarily False; they are merely the best–albeit flawed–tools of understanding our existence we currently have to work with, and so work with them we do. With imperfect tools come imperfect results, so continually we improve our tools of comprehension in order to get less and less imperfect results. At the end of the day, no matter how much we learn, we are still slave to what we can only know by suggestion. As for my qualifications, I have none; I'm (obviously) a Humanist. I agree; don't feed the Troll, conquer it by letting it conquer you. My advice: try psychedelics.

    I hope for most of you that that last comment has biased you all against all arguments I have made here. After all, it would only be logical for one snide, off-hand remark (or the occasional grammatical screw-up) to utterly dissuade most readers from presented arguments. After all, iIt is the loudest arguments that win the day anyways, right? I know it's absurd, crazy, and probably irrelevant, but the posts and the people who write them might not be one-in-the-same; an argumenti argumentandi?

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  27. Nocturnesthesia at |

    1) Evolution has been proven.

    2) Impressive trolling, Dave Davidson.

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  28. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

    The problem here is, theists will always support ignorance and lies over truth and logic. Truth and logic are always fatal to any religion. So debating these morons is a zero-sum effort. The more one presents truth and rational thinking, the more they respond with stupidity and lies. I say deport all theists to some remote island where they can practice their insanity without attempting to impose it on people who can actually think for themselves. BY imposing their sick, twisted beliefs into law, they are demonstrating the intolerance that they claim to be opposing. This is hardly surprising considering that their religion, whatever it may be was founded upon lies, so why should they stop now? Show me a religion and I will show you the lies that were use to start it.

    Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been, caused by religion. Mankind will never truly be free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the light of truth and rational thinking.

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  29. Timothy at |

    Lets add another: theory of organic evolution.

    Among many, many holes in the theory is the questions:

    Where’s the intermediate fossils to prove this-became-that?

    Evolution is a deception created by satan. It convinces us that we have no accountability before God. It is a teaching created by atheists to have a home, an alternative belief when they reject God.

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  30. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

    There are Thousands of pieces of evidence for evolution in museums, schools, and laboratories all over the earth. How many are there for creationism? Not one. That only exists in the delusions of mentally-disturbed theists.

    There are intermediate fossils to prove “this became that”. That there are not is simply one more lie by you theists.

    There is no god. You have no proof of that, either. But you must enjoy displaying your ignorance to the world. For example, your statement that atheists “reject god.” How can you reject something that does not exist? Do you reject Thor or Paul Bunyan? For certain, you have rejected reality, intelligence, and education.

    Come on, show us even one particle of proof of god, creationism or any of your other delusions. The ball is in your court. But you will surely run and hide. The normal theists tactic is to pretend the question was never asked, then declare victory through the power of god. Every theist I have ever known has been a fool a liar, or a hypocrite. Very often, like you, they are all three at the same time.

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    1. Boss B at |

      AMEN!

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  31. Darris at |

    Notice how the majority of those are either before the scientific method, were never even accepted by scientists, and that all of them were proven wrong by ACTUAL science
    Like evolution for instance. Jeez you people are dumb
    Theories explain WHY something happens. Evolution IS happening you’re ignoring evidence to say its not. If you think the theory of evolution doesn’t explain the observed phenomena, explain it better and support your assertion. Or shut up.

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    1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

      Darris, I agree wit what you are saying. But you are using facts and rational thinking to convince people that rejected facts and rational thinking long ago.

      “Id you could reason with theists, there wouldn’t be any theists.”

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  32. Darris at |

    @thos: the facts the earth is warming and ig is probably due to increased greenhouse gasses. Namely: carbon dioxide.
    Homo neanderthalis didn’t evolve from cro magnon? Where did you get that? We each have a common ancestor, that’s how evolution always works. I saw a funny picture once. It was titled “wheel of creationism!” (Like the wheel of fortune) and the puzzle on the wall said EVO_UT_ON and two contestants are saying “it can’t be evolution! There are too many gaps! The answer to the puzzle must be “Creation!” Lol

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  33. Isaiah40:8 at |

    James Smith, Get off the couch and get an education

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    1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

      Isaiah, you know nothing about me nor my education. From your comment I perceive that you are an ignorant person that thinks he knows everything even though he denies any proof is necessary.

      Show me one iota of proof of your god. I despise all religions, christianity in particular. Your religion has been the source of more human misery than any other source in history.

      Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been caused by religion. Think of Northern Ireland, the Mid-East, family planning clinic bombings, and the homophobic intolerance as well as the suppression of women. The consider the crusades, the inquisition, and the dark ages. Get the idea?

      Mankind will never truly be free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth and rational thinking.

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      1. ajg the dumb ox at |

        Ha ha, Why was the Dark Ages the fault of Christianity? That is a good one! What is your thinking on that one?

        Why your concern over hundreds of years of “inquisition” that historically, factually hurt very few people and was a great improvement over not having inquisition courts? Less that 5,000 people kills is a great, great sin but consider it over hundreds of years and you better have something bigger target “historically”. We lost more in the drug war in Mexico over the last couple of years alone. That’s just silly.

        Sin is at fault and you find that everywhere.

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        1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

          The dark ages was the fault of christianity because the church suppressed learning, science, and anything that might lesson its power over people. Those are facts. If you choose to ignore them, that’s more proof that you also choose ignorance and superstition over truth and human advancement. That’s not just thinking, it’s the way it is.

          What are you saying? That only 5,000 people murdered makes it OK? What about the thousands tortured and mutilated? Are those OK, too? Tell me, exactly when are murder and torture OK? When they are sanctioned and encouraged by a church, government, or social group?

          What sin? Things that your religion calls sin because it increases its hold on the gullible? There is only on true sin; hurting someone else unnecessarily. Everything else is invented nonsense.

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  34. Russ at |

    Ooh, very interesting list. (:

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  35. Paul at |

    A few of these were never actually *scientific* theories

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  36. Tanya at |

    The problem with this list is that NONE of these are scientific theories. They are hypotheses. To be a theory, an explanation of phenomena must be supported by solid fact. Unfortunately, most people confuse scientific theory with the definition of “theory” as used in casual conversation. It’s sad but true that most Americans are scientifically illiterate.

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    1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

      Tanya, sadly, you are 100% correct. even worse, the people that should be paying attention are too busy maintaining their willful ignorance to learn anything.

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    2. TopTenz Master at |

      You should be even more afraid that us poor illiterates in the United States have control of nuclear weapons, Hyuck!

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      1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

        As a matter of fact, many people around the world are worried about exactly that. When that moron George W. Bush was president, the worry factor went up a lot.

        Comments like yours raise it again by emphasizing that yes, there are still plenty of morons there.

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        1. TopTenz Master at |

          Good to see Americans aren’t the only ones who stereotype. Welcome to the club and thanks for visiting toptenz.net.

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          1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

            It isn’t a stereotype if it’s true. Exactly what did I post that wasn’t true? The idea that “W” was a moron or that there are plenty of morons available? Maybe it was that many people around the world are worried that the USA has so many nuclear weapons and is the only nation to ever use them?

            Enlighten me or great one. what was not true?

            FYI, I AM an American, but perhaps facts are not really of interest to you?

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  37. TK at |

    “For example, famed scientist Louis Pasteur showed that maggots would not appear on meat kept in a sealed container, and the invention of the microscope helped to show that these same insects were formed not by spontaneous generation but by airborne microorganisms.”

    Wait, what? Maggots aren’t created by “airborne microorganisms”! They’re baby flies!

    Sheesh… I learned _that_ in grammar school…

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    1. darris at |

      Flies are airborne organisms.

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      1. TK at |

        No, flies are NOT microorganisms.

        From Biology_Online.org: An organism that is microscopic or submicroscopic, which means it is too small to be seen by the unaided human eye.

        From Dictionary.com: Any organism too small to be viewed by the unaided eye, as bacteria, protozoa, and some fungi and algae.

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  38. Syed Hisham at |

    what about Aristotle’s idea of Geocentric Universe? People have been believing in that idea for so long time.

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  39. Local Postie at |

    Evolution? Where is our redundant DNA?

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    1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

      Renundant DNA? I’ve seem some really silly questions from creationists, but you’re near the top. In case you haven’t noticed, we have two parents. Each contribute to our personal DNA make up. The parts that are not included are truly redundant.

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      1. Local Postie at |

        No need to throw your rattle out of your pram James. Now if you really dig deep and do your research you will find that a study on pigs found that when they were released back in to the wild, after a time there redundant DNA switched back on and they grew larger, sharper teeth, tusks, harder leathery skin etc …. So basically they evolvedin to a Boar. Researching more animals and insects we found redundant DNA in most, which is DNA that has been switched off, no longer used. This is a great argument in favour of the evolution theory. BUT!! When human DNA was tested there was no redundant DNA found what so ever, no trail at all of any evolution. I have never heard a good explanation why not so thought I’d ask on here.

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        1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

          Maybe you would like to quote some references for your “research”? Or are we supposed to be like theists and believe it because someone says it’s true?

          What you also do not know is that a boar is a male pig.

          Another thing you refuse yo understand is that evolution is proven fact. There are thousands of pieces of evidence in laboratories, museums, and universities all over the world. For creationism, not one piece of evidence anywhere.

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          1. ajg the dumb ox at |

            But creation is self evident. All this stuff in front of us came from somewhere and it was all created at somepoint. Why is it that the arguement is evolution vs. creationism? Any decent theoist believes that our creator created creation and how it evolulved or changed or developed, came out of that creation.

            In a previous note you stated that “Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been caused by religion. Think of Northern Ireland, the Mid-East, family planning clinic bombings, and the homophobic intolerance as well as the suppression of women. The consider the crusades, the inquisition, and the dark ages. Get the idea?”

            You should study your history. The Dark Ages, were not so dark. Study it sometime!

            The Crusades were a response to attacks on pilgrims by the Muslims who had in previously rooted out the Christians who lived there. You may remember that Muslim armies were for many centuries already attacking Eastern Europe and the Iberian Penisula. This does not justify anything but you have to be aware that there is a history to know more about.

            The Inquisition? Which one? How bad do you think it was? Have you ever studied it enough to find out how many people were actually killed because of inquisitions? Less that 5,000 by historical analysis. Check it out.

            You want to blame religion? In just the last century, we have seen killing by mass murder & wars (250 million) than all the previous centuries. Who caused this? Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Po Pot, and others. – they weren’t believers in God. Look it up.

            Now, incase you care at all, we are murdering over 30 million human babies every year! Brothers and sisters, and sons and daughters – killed. I wish people were either a little more religious or a little more humanistic (in the real meaning of the word).

            God bless you always.

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          2. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

            Creation is self evident? There is not a single bit of proof of creationism anywhere in the world. There are thousands of pieces of evidence of evolution in laboratories, universities, and museums all over the world. Only a self-deluded fool would believe something is “self-evident” when there is not proof at all.

            What theorists? What creator? Where is your proof of that?

            I have studied the dark ages and that’s when the church controlled most of Europe and suppressed learning, independent thinking, burnt heretics, tortured non-believers, and forced people like Galileo to recant obvious facts. How about you study that time from something other than a religious viewpoint.

            Tell me one thing I have said that is not true and provide proof. That’s a direct challenge. If you evade or ignore it, you’re admitting I am right and you haven’t a fact to follow.

            Your excuse for the crusade is nothing more than another lie promoted by Christians to cover up and excuse their crimes. Again, show some proof.

            All of the inquisitions. What are you saying, because it was only 5,000 people killed (again you offer no proof) that makes it OK? What about the ones tortured until they were maimed and crippled for life? They don’t matter?

            I am amazed you use that tired old Mao/Stalin/PolPot./Hitler lie. You’re wrong on every count. Hitler was a Catholic.

            “And so I believe to-day that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator. In standing guard against the Jew I am defending the handiwork of the Lordâ?? â?? Adolph Hitler

            In any case, all of those were doing the evil they did not because they were atheists, but because they were repressing any perceived threats to their power. This has been established so many times that I am amazed you are not embarrassed to even mention it.

            You must be referring to abortion. That is nothing more than a religious view and is not shared by everyone.

            What about the 27,000 children around the world that at this instant are dying of starvation and malnutrition? What is your non-existent god doing for them? Doesn’t he care?

            God bless you is very offensive. If I were a satanist (who doesn’t exist, either) and said I’ll sacrifice a couple of babies to Lord Satan for you, would you be offended?

            Stop spouting the theist nonsense and start thinking for yourself. Stop dodging questions and start providing proof.

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            1. TopTenz Master at |

              This isn’t a reply to this comment. My site, Toptenz.net in no way endorses the viewpoint of this guest. I am a Christian and his words and ideas are his own and he has a right to say them. I don’t agree with his hatred of religion, particularly of Christianity, but I will allow it to be posted on this site as long as it is said with respect. I did have to edit this post to remove insults and other aggressive language. But in the interest of free speech and because my God can handle it, I have posted it.

          3. darris at |

            My bachelor’s is in history. The dark ages were pretty dark. Just not how some people think. The nonbelievers you listed should be revised. Hitler was a catholic. Read his book. Also, even if he wasnt, they didnt do it BECAUSE of their atheism. The Crusades were done BECAUSE of religion. That was the given reason. The inquisition didnt kill a lot of people… by SOME historical studies which were by and large funded and staffed by the catholic church. and even then they still tortured hugely more people for confessions. This is all just useless banter though because if the church is telling the truth and is all good and kind, they wouldnt have killed even one person right? The atheists at least dont say they are morally infallible by god’s whims while they kill millions. They were not “Muslim armies” they were arab armies which happened to have muslims. The crusades were a power grab by the pope at the time. Rome was faltering. Where do you get your history? It is irrelevant who started the crusades. His post didnt say christianitu started it. It said religion caused it. Islam is a religion, last i checked.

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          4. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

            @toptenzmater

            I see that you ignored everything I said in the email. I knew you would resort to censorship because that is how religion survives. As I said then, what you consider insults are only statements of observed facts. As I also said, if those facts offend anyone, they should stop making absurd statements and start proving their claims.

            You god cannot withstand questions, facts, or rational thinking. Those are more facts, not insults. I challenged you as I have everyone to prove that anything I have posted is not true.

            I suspect your next step will be the extreme censorship of banning me. That’s the last cowardly refuge of someone that cannot withstand criticism, especially when it is supported by facts.

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            1. TopTenz Master at |

              James, I am not going to debate you, for whatever reason you want to believe. Simply put, my mind and faith will not be changed and neither will yours, at least not by my hand. What is the point. If anything, you are becoming white noise by your repeated mantra of religion hating. I believe all your 7 or so comments are cut of the same cloth: religion and Christianity is bad, blah, blah, blah.

              We get it.

              You don’t like us (Christians).

              Move on, life is short, especially if you don’t believe in eternal life. (sorry, I couldn’t resist.)

              From now on comment on the actual list and quit trying to twist any list that mentions religion into your pulpit, pun intended.

              I’m also insulted that you resorted to the “dare” of banning you from this site and then calling me a coward if I do. Ugh, how cliche and unoriginal. If I had a nickel for every commentor who used that ploy, I wouldn’t need this site. I can’t ban anyone from reading this site. You are free and welcome to continue to read the lists at your pleasure. I would only ban commentors who are continually aggressive and insulting to the other commentors. Play nice and you can stay all you like.

              Do you sent at home yelling at the TV every time a show has a religious theme? Probably not, so keep calm, enjoy the site and respect the differences in everyone, which is the very thing you complain about concerning Christians. Be a good example for us and live in harmony. No one is trying to convert you, only God could accomplish that miracle so let the rest of us live as we please. You have written your peace repeatedly. It is duly noted.

              And as much as you hate it, I promise I will pray for you. This is the last I will write on this. We both have better things to do. We have both gotten our feelings on this matter out. It is closed and finished. I expect you to obey my wishes. There are other web sites that will gladly support your views and welcome your written tirades. This is not one of them, and that will never change as long as I own it. And that is a fact. Amen.

    2. darris at |

      I dont see how redundant dna is necessary for evolution to have occurred.. we have plenty of unnecessary dna which i would lije a creationist to explain.

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      1. darris at |

        Im not talking to you anymore. Youre just making stuff up. Its dishonest. In Mein Kampf Hitler says not just that he was baptized but also that he believes his actions were in accord with “the almightycreator”
        His soldiers had belt buckles that said Gott mit uns. That means god with us.
        Seriously. He was Catholic beginning to end. Prat.
        I don’t know whether Stalin was baptized but after what i just read from you about hitler im not going to give you any credence. You need not reply to this. Shame on you for patronizing someone about their knowledge of history

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        1. ajg the dumb ox at |

          Dear Darris,
          Yes, you are correct historically about Hitler. Catholic through Baptism and childhood but clearly, historically as a young adult and from then on he rejected the majority teachings and doctrines of the Church and he was not a practicing, believing Catholic. No bad for all of us. He did not accept sacraficial love it seems. Nor to love God with all of your heart, mind, soul and strength and love your neighbor as you love yourself.

          But Stalin & Mao were believing, preaching, practicing atheists. Both responsble for more deaths each than Hitler. But why give atheists a bad name. Most are good people and there are bad Christians and bad Atheists. that is for sure.

          On evolution, why is there a belief that evolution and religion are opposed thinking? I know some believe in evolution and for them its proof that there is no creator. I know some religuous people that think creation had to be an instantaneous event so there could not be a human evolution.

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  40. ajg the dumb ox at |

    Yes its true that Hitler was baptised. So was Stalin. It didn’t stick.

    As for creation and evolution, they are not opposites. Why do you make them opposed to each other?

    Do you believe that the matter infront of you was “created” from something? Where did it evolve from? Answer the question – where did it come from? How did it start? From what? What was the cause to get it all started?

    God Bless you and keep you always.

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  41. no comment at |

    people who thinks that their ancesstors is from monkey actually an ignorance…how can monkey turn to human..can you believe it….it’s such a waste of time to read the ridiculous theory….try to think logically guys…

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    1. Lou at |

      @no comment: I was going to reply, but sari said it best (and earlier, if you had been paying attention-

      “If you actually took the time to read Darwin’s theory of evolution you would know he never claimed we came from monkeys. What he said was that we shared a common ancestor.”

      Now, can we bury the “man descended from apes” crap once and for all?

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  42. Local Postie at |

    Wow there is a lot of anger on here, I’m quite surprised I’m still getting emails on the same discussion. We’ve got Atheists and Christians debating, and let’s keep it a debate, not a small minded arguement please. I am a Christian, I also believe in evolution, but not the way it is commonly taught, I just believe species can adapt to there environments. I do not believe that one species can evolve in to another. And there is no real proof to prove otherwise.

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    1. Darris at |

      What do you consider real proof?
      I have a lot of real proof.

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      1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

        Well put. In fact, I was reading an essay by Isaac Asimov only a few minutes ago that mentioned this very subject.

        Do not be disappointed if your request is ignored. Theists never want “real proof” (a redundancy, is their false proof?) because proof would destroy their favored illusions. In fact, they often deny proof is necessary. They claim you only require “faith”. Faith and beliefs are the same. They are accepting as true that which has no supporting evidence and may have substantial evidence to the contrary.

        You cannot reason a person away from a position they did not reach through reason.

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      2. the dumb ox at |

        Proof that one species can evolve into another species or that a species evolves or both? Wow. God is amazing!

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        1. James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil at |

          Again, what god? Where is any proof of any god at all?

          What is amazing is that the god in which you profess to believe would have created humans with so much intelligence and than so many choose to throw it away.

          The stubborn stupidity I see in this thread makes me wonder if evolution has not started to backtrack. So many people decide to ignore all evidence and reject facts in favor of a badly-translated, politically-edited book of lies and myths that it appears that evolution was at least not evenly distributed among the race.

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          1. The dumb Ox at |

            James, Where do you say it all comes from? You have much greater faith than I do if you believe it all came from nothing!

            I only believe a creator created it, and then, God knows why, He became one of us. He even died for you. Jesus is real. That’s a historical fact. He loves you son.

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    2. the dumb ox at |

      There’s no reason a reasonable Christian cannot believe that God created us through millions of years if that is God’s plan. He created us. There is amazing proof that all was created, because it is here. Somehow it started. Somehow it started moving. Somehow it started growing and developing. We call that somehow the creator. But – then we found out that He loves us too. Nice!

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  43. the dumb ox at |

    Well said Local Postie.

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