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  1. Anne Iredale at |

    What an interesting and well researched list.

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  2. sidvee at |

    kurt was not a god he was a pathetic junkie that got lucky with a couple of great songs all his life he had it all but decided to jack up and blame every one but himself otherwise great list

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    1. scott at |

      kurt cobain was not just a pathetic junkie, you have absolutely no idea what your talking about, you have no idea why he even started doing herion, kurt cobain gave hope to angsty teenagers who felt comfort in knowing they werent alone.

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      1. Sean at |

        Lol. “Angsty teenagers”? Oh, you mean spoiled brats who have never had a real problem in their entire lives, yet were somehow “disillusioned” by the bleak hopelessness of the times?

        Take your liberal arts degree and get the hell off of my internet.

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        1. Sean at |

          Research Cobain, before you pass any judgements on him.

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        2. mat at |

          although he wasnt the best of guitarist he still took the world from hair metal and bring it back down to a level of modern day blues, you can’t say that he wasnt a voice for a generation because teenagers then didnt have ‘real’ problems, what makes their problems so less significant then problems of teens now days? if anything it makes them more significant and making him more iconic now more than ever. how many musicians/artists now days can you HONESTLY say have that much of a positive influence on people?

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    2. Drake4242 at |

      With all due respect your point is invalid. Kurt blamed no one but himself. And that “junkie” affected more peoples lives then you will ever know. Thanks.

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  3. Geoff Kuhfeldt at |

    Really? uhhh…. ok, grunge was not a genre, but a record company creation. second, there are two guitar players that really belong on this list buzzo and Thayil. Nirvana, maybe on bleach qualified as this sound but had moved on by Nevermind, and he is not much of a player. Jerry Cantrell and AIC are something completely different, only related by geography and time. The rest, are not related in anyway to the title of the list. I am make no judgments on anyone's playing at all, cept maybe kurt, he is just the biggest seller, not the best player. Also I have heard the Neil Young argument before, don't buy it. Blue Cheer. Black Sabbath. Big Muffs. SuperFuzz. Sun Model T's. This music would have happened when ever creativity ran into all that gear being dirt freaking cheap.

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  4. grungefreak101 at |

    Geoff: grunge is a genre. you can't deny it.

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  5. Pasttime at |

    sidvee, I am not sure what you are talking about Kurt Cobain was one of the most talented and influencial musicians of all time. He was a great guitar player and wrote his own music. He was very young when he died and had a lot left to give to the musical world. He would own many of the guitarists on this list. Get your facts straight.

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    1. Sean at |

      You obviously don’t play guitar. I was able to play literally EVERY piece of music he ever wrote within 3 months of playing. And I wasn’t trained, I just picked up the damned thing and went to work. Kurt was a good songwriter, but not in a sense of being “different”, in fact it’s just the opposite– he was a great POP songwriter. That’s right, Kurt Cobain was a good songwriter in the same way that Madonna was, NOT the way Morrissey was. And that’s fine. The Beatles were a pop band, too. But the way you dorks overrate Kurt is hilarious. It’s one thing to be a fanboy of his songwriting, but to defend his guitar-playing is asinine.

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      1. Sean at |

        That’s only because you have listened to Nevermind.

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      2. mat at |

        and just how much have you contributed to the grunge/punk scene?

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  6. grungefreak101 at |

    kurt cobain: should not be on the top 10 guitarists of all time, just this list

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    1. Sean at |

      If you study, really study melodic principles of his songs, you would change your mind. STFU

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  7. Linalmeemow at |

    Where to start…

    "In Nirvana’s early work Kurt couldn’t do all of the guitar by himself, so he had Pat Smear help him with it.". Pat Smear didn't work with Nirvana until the In Utero tour ("In Utero" is their last album – not early work), and he certainly had nothing to do with writing or recording "Polly" other than playing on the "Unplugged" version.

    Radiohead were not a grunge band by any stretch of the imagination, and "there would be no indie rock without Greenwood" is one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Indie rock had been around for years before Radiohead existed.

    Jerry Cantrell…"was the foundation of the emo rock era". No, no, no – that would be the DC hardcore bands (Rites of Spring, Embrace, Faith, Void…).

    This article is poorly written and researched.

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    1. MergedLoki at |

      Thank you! I was gonna post ‘pat smear didn’t join till in utero was being written/recorded/toured’

      In the 80′s while touring for ‘Bleach’ they had hmm… I believe the guitarists name was James everman (or something along those lines I dont have the album in front of me to look) to provide a 2nd guitar for Nirvana as their sound really benefited from the addition of a 2nd guitar.

      But the majority of nirvana’s guitar work was done by cobain alone.

      not to mention Pat Smear was in the Germs (one of the early L.A. 70′s punk bands) so he would have had a bigger influence on 80′s punk rock than grunge.

      k im done here lol.

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      1. Lou at |

        Kurt played the guitar in every Nirvana song, just him. The dude, Jason Everman did not actually play on any of the tracks on Bleach.

        So yeah, Kurt was god.

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  8. Bert at |

    Nevermind grunge, Neil is one of the greatest guitarists rock has ever seen.

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  9. Anon at |

    Late to the party, but;

    Although they weren't a Seattle band, many people consider Dinosaur Jr's work in the late 1980's as proto-grunge. Albums like You're Living All Over Me (1986) and Green Mind(1988) are absolute masterpieces and are definitely in the same stoner metal vein as grunge itself. Assuming this is true, I would have to say that J Mascis is the greatest of all grunge guitarists. In fact, he may be the greatest alternative rock guitarist ever.

    Speaking of Dinosaur Jr, how about doing a list of the most criminally ignored rock bands of all time. It would be hard to whittle it down to just 10, since there are so many.

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  10. marina at |

    Are you serious??? Kurt Cobain created Grunge! He was the GOD. Neil Young? Give me a break! According to who? Please do your research before making these lists.

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    1. Tanya at |

      Check out the wiki on grunge for some back up or just take a look at his plaid shirts, messy hair, and listen to his even messier guitar. Neil Young is widely accepted as the 'godfather of grunge'; if he's not the godfather he's at least grunge's older Canadian cousin.

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      1. Paul L at |

        Anyone that thinks that Neil Young is the Godfather of grunge has been subject to way to much brainwashing by MTV. Grunge did not suddenly burst forth from Kurt Cobains forehead one day back in the early 90s. Before Seattle hit the scene there was Athens and Minneapolis. There was “College Radio” (yeah that was the listing in the back of Rolling Stone) There were bands like REM, 10,000 Maniacs, Sonic Youth, Midnight Oil, The Smiths, The Church, Love and Rockets and many many more. I have seen videos of Dave Grohl talking about his influences and it wasn’t Neil Young it was Bob Mould of Husker Du.
        Watch the Documentaries loudQUIETloud and American Hardcore and then tell me if Neil Young had a freaking thing to do with Grunge other than just being a washed up baby boomer that saw a chance to reinvent himself and try and make himself relevant to Generation X.

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        1. Tanya Bennett at |

          Just saw this now so I’m responding a bit late… I grew up a couple of hours away from Seattle, and I am a musician who is just a bit younger than the ones on this list so I don’t need the music history lesson and I’m not brainwashed by the media – I was there.

          I agree that grunge didn’t just “suddenly burst from Kurt Cobain’s forehead” but I’m not sure how that is an argument against Neil Young’s title as the godfather of grunge – it only backs up the idea that grunge was a music style that emerged from musicians who shared various circumstances and influences. One of them was Neil Young. No doubt Husker Du, as well as many other bands and musicians, were influences but I don’t think Bob Mould fits the godfather role since he was busy putting out albums with his band Sugar at the time. He seemed like more of a contemporary than an older generation. Same with Thurston Moore. I own a copy of loudQuietloud and I’m not sure why you’re recommending it – I don’t remember it covering this topic or do you consider the Pixies grunge? As for Michael Stipe or that bald guy from Midnight Oil – godfather’s of grunge? I don’t think so. Lou Reed is an alternative thanks to his Velvet Underground and Metal Machine Music noisiness – but I prefer Young.

          I seem to recall that Neil Young wasn’t pointed out as the ‘godfather’ of grunge until after the fact, when everyone was so interested in dissecting grunge – and I’m sure lots of people don’t agree. However, I think grunge’s popularity opened a younger generations’ ears to his music and I think that is wonderful, because I respect his talent and because I am a fellow Canadian. (Happy Canada Day!)

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          1. Paul L at |

            Tanya, I am not trying to label anyone as “the Godfather of Grunge” I am pointing out that Grunge evolved from many different sources.

            Yes, I agree that Neil Young influenced Grunge, but to call him the Godfather of Grunge or to say he is one of the greatest Grunge guitarists would be like saying Les Paul is the Godfather of Rockabilly. While they both influenced the movement there is such a generational gap between the two that you cannot draw a direct line. In fact the album that Neil Young released during the 90s that I remember was Harvest Moon a country/ folk album. You can get to Grunge from Neil Young but to get there you have to go through the Velvet Underground, the Punk Movement, The New wave movement, the hardcore movement, the college radio movement until you finally get to grunge. Neil Young is more the great grandfather of grunge than the god father.
            But MTV chose to label him the godfather of grunge and people accepted it as fact. (Except for those of us who were listening to College Radio and knew better) It was in 93 when Young performed his UnPlugged show on MTV that they labeled him the Godfather of Grunge.

            Why did I reference Loud Quiet Loud? Because if you pay attention to the Pixies and then you listen to Nirvana you will see the loud quiet loud structure, that Nirvana made it huge with, being done 5-10 years before Nirvana, by the Pixies. Do I consider the Pixies Grunge? No, they were college radio.

            Don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to take anything away from Neil Young (except this fake title) he is a great musician, he is a better lyricist than 90% of the music world, he can even sing passably. But God father of grunge…. No…. (And happy belated Canada Day, Have a Molson Golden on me)

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            1. Tanya Bennett at |

              Paul, I just reread our comments, and I notice we both agree that grunge evolved from many different sources and we both are not convinced that Neil Young is the ‘godfather.’ We both also agree that he is a great musician and that he did influence Grunge to some extent (I refer to him as grunge’s older Canadian cousin and you say he is more like the great grandfather of grunge). I was just saying he is widely accepted as the godfather so I wasn’t surprised to see him on this writer’s list.

              I found the inclusion of the Living Color guitarist much more shocking. I’m not saying they weren’t influential – but grunge? Really? I also don’t consider Smashing Pumpkins or Radiohead grunge (some of their songs may be grungy but overall, no I don’t think so). They were just part of the musical landscape at the time, so would have influenced each other. If we’re going to discount Neil Young, I think these bands should be taken off the list too. Grunge replacements: Eric Erlandson, Donita Sparks, Mark Lanegan, Steve Turner…

  11. Andrew AC/DC at |

    Soundgarden,Mudhoney and Nirvana are by far the greatests and most influential grunge nads of the early 90's and Kim Thayil is the best grunge guitarist…oh yeah and Kurt Cobain

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  12. Anon at |

    Kurt Cobain didn't create grunge. He was responsible for popularizing it and making it a mainstream commodity (as well as an intensely idiosyncratic), kind of like what Elvis did for R&B in the mid 1950's.

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  13. Big pappa at |

    Kurt Cobain was mote then just a guitarist. He's not a brilliant guitarist. There's so many better than him but he was a good 1. He was the voice of a generation. Kurt was 1 of the best singers of all time. There is no one who can scream their head off and make it sound so good. He wasn't a sellout!

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  14. Wyndtunnel at |

    Kurt Cobain was the most brilliant Grunge song writer…and he did so on his guitar so yeah..he's a gutiar God..His rythm playing and chording is excellent. But if you're evaluating overall technical proficiency than Kim Thayil wins hands down.

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  15. Lmanaman at |

    grunge wasnt about how cool guitar solos you could make in a song, and half of these guitarists are not grunge. good effort though

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  16. TheCLDrummer at |

    Right, so you have Kurt Cobian and Pat Smear, where is Dave Grohl ?

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  17. Ben at |

    For the love of the English Language, can you PLEASE proofread these things before they are published? I could hardly get through some of these descriptions for the grammar and spelling errors! Look, I know it's about grunge guitarists, but COME ON!

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  18. Fatsoap at |

    You do realise Neil Youn started playing before the 1940′s? Neil young is not grunge. He’s just old school

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  19. Alex at |

    As much of a fan i am of Nirvana he really was a pretty bad guitarist… yes he influenced a lot of other bands but people who actually PLAY the guitar no how badly he played it. So badly that its hard to get the same sound… it was sloppy which made it sound good. Cobain actually said in an interview that he cant play guitar well at all. I repeat COBAIN SAID HE CANT PLAY GUITAR….. so to the people going on and on about how much of an awesome guitarist he was learn guitar first. He was influential but still a really bad guitar player…..

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  20. The_Mad_Zak at |

    The Top 10 Grunge Guitarists? WTF? That’s like the Top Ten Smartest Retarded Kids. How about the Top Ten Healthiest Dead People?

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  21. Rocco at |

    This list is total BS. Pat smear is NOWHERE on any Nirvana record. He was hired to play rhythm guitar for the In Utero tour. THAT’S IT! He isn’t “responsibly for ANYTHING on any of their records. Give me a break…how pathetic. The least you could do is a little research.

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    1. mat at |

      noone said anything of contributing. He was still in the band and would have continued to be if kurt hadn’t died, are seriously that retarded and incase you didnt know he was in a band called ‘the germs’ aswell which are awesomely influencial in their own right

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  22. zak at |

    Wow…this is…this is just…poorly done. No J. Mascis? Not even an honorable mention? A best Grunge Guitarist list and no J Mascis…what is this world coming to…
    This list is invalidated until this horrendous wrong has been righted.

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  23. Mau at |

    People needs to realize the difference between Kurt Cobain the songwriter and Kurt Cobain the guitarist. We can’t argue what Kurt did for music, but qualifying him as a better guitarist above Mike McCready, Jerry Cantrell, Kim Thayil and Johnny Greenwood takes away all the credibility on this list.

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    1. SlowJoe at |

      Thanks for finally stating what I thought was obvious. Cobain was a mediocre guitarist at best, and the fact Nirvana were the most popular Grunge band does not mean he was one of the best guitarists. I’m shocked to see Mike McCready 8th: he’s so underrated – the Alive solo is an all-time great and he never produced a bad riff.

      Besides, calling Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins and Living Colour Grunge is a distinction made only to serve the purposes of this list. You could put Steve Turner and Dean DeLeo to compensate that.

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  24. jamesthinksholy at |

    first Cobain sucks at guitar, second greenwood is a way better musician than any one on this list incuding Neil young , third Neil young is still the man but unfortunately is not grunge

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  25. Kurt's Dad at |

    You forgot to mention Kurt Cobain Love of Hole fame.

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  26. Sean at |

    AWFUL LIST!

    Kurt Cobain better than Jerry Cantrell?! ARE YOU INSANE!?! Billy Corgan is on this list, not James Iha?! Radiohead is grunge? And In Living Color, too? Did you forget Kirk Kirkwood of the Meat Puppets, or are you just a fool?

    The ONLY thing you did right was put Neil Young at #1, because he’s one of the best guitarists in so many, many ways that has ever graced the Earth. But it’s clear that you did it just to be a music snob.

    Seriously, this is a really awful list. I know we all have our opinions, but this is really, really bad.

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  27. Zach Gillette at |

    Neil Young is one of the worst professional guitarists to have ever existed.

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  28. 90's Child at |

    This list is ridiculous. First of all, Grunge was an invention of the media… something to write about and hype up. That being said, there WAS legitimate reason for much of the hype at the time; regardless of how you want to brand “the movement”. The great thing about “Grunge” IMO was that it spelled the end for glitzy glam rock, and spawned musicians that were less interested in how they looked on stage.

    I’ve always been a Nirvana fan, and i can appreciate what the band did for music — i HATE most hair metal of the 80′s aside from Van Halen and a few guilty pleasures — but anybody who actually plays guitar would NEVER, ever rate him ahead of a Kim Thayill or Mike McCready.

    McCready can cover Jimi Hendrix and make it sound just as good or even better than the original, Kurt Cobain was a great songwriter but he could NEVER do that. We are talking about technical guitar playing here… not fanboy worship. And please, with such a poor list you’re going to go history-snob on us and put Neil Young at NUMBER ONE??? Please….

    PS- since when was Radiohead “Grunge”?? I’ve never even heard of the connection ever before… i have heard Smashing Pumpkins lumped in the with Grunge scene but aside from timing, they weren’t really Grunge, and i love SP but they were just a thing of their own (still closer to the genre than Radiohead).

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  29. Silentmiller at |

    No J. Mascis here, no list.

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  30. Stanious at |

    Kurt Cobain at number two?If it was a list of influential guitarists then I could understand it but Kurt was a limited guitarist, good song writer but nothing special on the guitar!

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  31. Stanious at |

    Wait Jerry Cantrell Emo-Rock?You sir have no idea what music is about!

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  32. Alice in Chains at |

    Jerry Cantrell is the god of all grunge musicians of all times.

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  33. Mudhoney fan at |

    Steve Turner/Mark Arm or Tad Doyle at no. 1 for me. Just as I Tad and Mudhoney truly defined that sound in the late 80′s I think before messing about with it and moving further into a garage-rock/psych/punk direction in Mudhoney’s case and a hugely heavy metal-punk hybrid in Tad’s case. (Then Brothers of the Sonic Cloth veer into Sludge/Doom territory)
    King Buzzo should also be higher. The Melvins took the slowed down punk of “My war”-later era Black Flag to the next level. As for godfather of grunge; surely Ron Asheton? Groundhogs Tony McPhee also has some insanely dirty grungy riffs, (Neil Young with Crazy Horse has some pretty intense grungy moments right enough but Neil Young as an artist was a chameleon- (maybe not to the same extent as someone like David Bowie) but he played around with folk, acoustic balladry, jazz inspired improvisations, rock n’ roll, country and hard rock…even a brief electro phase. His first band Buffalo Springfield are just something else, too. The dreamlike “Expecting to Fly” is like heaven, musically as far as I’m concerned)
    Sometimes I feel the problem with the supposed genre (media creation or otherwise), “grunge”, is what exactly constitutes “grunge”? Is it a guitar sound/ recording aesthetic/ what? Much of the records associated with grunge are actually quite polished records. Bands like Kyuss have a much grungier sound than the early 90′s “big 4″ (much as I very much like those bands) Their churning, gutsy sound, both in terms of the guitar sound and recordings, are like the equivalent of what Blue Cheer could sound like if they started in the 90s.
    Just my two quid… cents.. or whatever the GBP/USD conversion rate is these days(!)

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  34. Mudhoney fan at |

    feel*

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