Top 10 Arguments That Can’t Be Won
Since the time of fire, man has had arguments – rare or well done? Of course, arguments depend on your point of view, or in the case of husbands and wives, what the wife thinks. Some arguments are never-ending. Over the centuries, there have been some doozies that have kept philosophy students and teachers debating.
To be included on this list of Arguments That Can’t Be Won, the argument must have no clear answer that cannot be countered with another opposing view.
Disclaimer: TopTenz.net is in no way trying to lead you to think in one way or another. We are only trying to present the arguments in a meaningful context.
Evolution or Creation?
Theologists and scientists have been arguing this one for centuries as well. The argument goes back to the time when organized religion was almost as powerful as the monarchies ruling countries. When people starting postulating that the Earth was not the center of the universe, it gave way to the rise in questioning the idea of a seven-day creation and God’s role in creating the Earth. Enter Darwin and his Theory of Evolution and the debate truly kicks off with an unholy fevered pitch. Add in that there are many stories of creation across many different religions and your brain can really start to hurt.
Nature vs. Nurture
Does how you are raised affect your views as an adult more than what your genetic codes dictate? If your family has always been carpenters, are you destined to be a carpenter because of your genes or because of your familial upbringing? When identical twins are separated at birth and grow up to have identical tastes is that an argument that it has more to do with nature than nurture? However, is it nature to love spicy food, when that’s all that your family and friends eat?
Gun control
It’s not guns that kill people, it’s the bullets. In America, citizens have a right to bear arms, which has proven to be dangerous for many other citizens and police over the centuries since the country’s birth. On the other hand, large portions of the gun-toting population are careful citizens who have never crossed the law. Why should one group’s rights to bear arms be stripped away because another group feels unsafe? Or why should they be allowed to bear those weapons of death among a land of peaceful citizens?
Euthanasia
Dr. Kevorkian helped many people commit suicide due to their health conditions and their desires. His motives were questioned because all life is supposedly precious, but his patients wanted to move on from their frail existence. What if those patients didn’t have a say and we had the opportunity to choose whether they live in agony or die in peace by not giving them medication or a procedure? What is the better option?
The Death Penalty
Centuries ago, the prevalent rule of thumb was an eye for an eye, or in some cases, a life for a life. So the question becomes have we advanced far enough in our social and political structures to ban the death penalty? Or when is the death penalty justifiable? Is the death penalty appropriate for an accidental homicide? How about for a mass murderer?
Abortion or Pro-life?
Does a woman have the right to control her body by ending a life inside her? When is a fetus truly alive? Is all life truly precious? What happens when a woman is raped and becomes pregnant – is that life still precious? There may never be answers to these questions; however, the government has helped us out many times by entering its own opinion whether the pro-lifers like it or not.
Free will or Destiny?
The free will or destiny argument stems back to the Christian doctrine that God is omniscient and has seen everything that will happen. So if God can see everything that happens, is it free will or destiny that makes you choose to continue reading? Some have argued that God knows you will read this but you still have a choice. However, if the path is already apparent to one being, then the path has already been decided for you. However, that directly contradicts our everyday actions where we constantly make decisions – is something, a destiny foreseen by God, guiding us or are we truly free of the strictures of destiny?
Morals – Relative or Universal?
Like the question of gun control, whether ethics being morally relative or universal comes down to whether the good of the one outweighs the good of the many. If it is fine to sleep with another man’s wife in one society but not in another, then the problem is that the morals are relative to the society or person. But why wouldn’t it be universal that it is wrong to sleep with another man’s wife or woman’s husband in any society? Why is it OK to speed, when it is breaking the law? Shouldn’t breaking any law be just as wrong? If you would never steal a person’s purse, why would you pirate a DVD?
The chicken or the egg?
Perhaps one of the most fun arguments on this list, the chicken or the egg debate has raged for centuries mainly because it asks the questions does the animal evolve and then reproduce or was it hatched? That debate can then be transferred to our own existence, which leads into the argument of Evolution or Creation.
Does God Exist?
Since the dawn of recorded time, there have been people trying to prove that there is a higher being or beings that have caused the worlds and its creation. Organized religion comes down to having faith that there is a higher being and a place to go after death. Most people, if not already deeply religious in their life, find religion and start believing as they near their twilight years because they want to believe there is somewhere to go and someone to be with. So the question is how do you prove that god, in which ever religion you believe, exists?
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A well thought out list.
I’m surprised you haven’t got any raging arguments down here. Half of those are such hot topics they would spark a forest fire in the North Pole.
Oh well. What came first, ‘omg fake’ or ‘woohoo first’?
Abortion is a good one. Good god, people will NEVER agree on abortion.
As for the chicken and egg, if you accept some degree of evolution then the egg came first. This owes to the fact that most genetic variation between generations occurs in the gamete (egg/sperm) stage. Therefore the egg hatched a chicken, but was not laid by a chicken….just something extremely like a chicken that probably still tasted good.
There are other arguments that are obviously not top 10 worthy, but they are still pretty controversial…
Gay Marriage?
YooHoo’s or Chocolate milk?
Snickers or Milky Way?
Meat or Veggies?
McDonald’s or Burger King?
…and the list goes on…
A timeless question that gets little attention today…
Live ones life in duty to yourself or to a higher cause? A subject in service to the king, a soldier in service to the country, a matyr in service to the cause, a clergy in service to the gods. To them, the man in service to himself is a selfish and self-rationalising fool. To him, they are fools, duped into towing the line for another at their own expense.
True, in this life none of these will be settled with complete agreement.
The only place I would disagree with how you assess these, is the last-It haas been my experience, (as a pastor), that the longer a person goes in life without some kind of faith, the less likely they are to gain any in their “twilight years”. Certainly they think of death more, but after a life of self-reliance, they extremely rarely turn to any faith during that time.
Evolution vs. Creation never was an issue.
Evolution is a proven fact, period.
Also, Evolution and Creation are not mutually exclusive.
Also, god can’t be proven because he probably doesn’t exist.
Evolution is not a proven fact. It is just a theory still. There has not been any research or experiments to prove or disprove Evolution or Creationism. This is mostly because of the immense amount of time, money, and rescources it would take. But I do agree that the 2 theories are not mutually exclusive, although most creationists believe they are. God cannot be proven until atleast the rapture, if/when that happens. Otherwise there is no way to prove God exists, and religious people will not just agree that God does not exist. Chicken or the Egg is strongly tied to beliefs. It is quite obvious that the egg came first, as it has been proven that dinosaurs lived on the earth way before chickens, and it has also been proven that dinosaurs did lay eggs. Religious Zealots however, are more likely to believe the chicken came first as it is said in the Bible that God created all the animals, not their eggs.
“It is just a theory still.”
this word, “theory”, it does not mean what you think it means.
Evolution is a fact. It has been proven with experimental data and objective verifiable observations. To explain why it’s called the “Theory of Evolution,” please realize that scientific theory is entirely different than the layman’s definition. Towit, scientific theory is a well supported body of interconnected statements that explains observations and can be used to make testable predictions.
There have been many, many experiments proving evolution. You can start with Gregor Mendel’s study of inheritance of traits and move forward through Morgan’s study of fruit fly mutations to today’s work with DNA and individual genes.
The chicken and egg debate is not subject to any belief system. Eggs came first, in the sense that egg-laying animals existed before chickens and in the sense that genetic variation occurs during development. I think even a hardcore creationist can agree to that. Genetic mutations don’t occur during adulthood. A 30-year-old man doesn’t just wake up an albino.
However, I agree that creationism and evolutionism aren’t mutually exclusive. Unfortunately, too many people are unwilling to have open minds and discourse regarding some topics.
Yeah, it’s just a theory.
Just like gravity.
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Evolution HAS NOT been proven and never will be. Evolution is a theory just as creation is a theory (Christians back off, I believe in intelligent design). There is no physical way to prove evolution right now. In thousands of years when the human race and other species have possibly evolved into something else, then evolution might be proven. Until then, don’t get your panties in bunches…
Enjoy!
Examples of natural speciation (the formation of new species through evolutionary processes):
Komodo Monitors
Fiji Banded Iguanas
Darwin’s 13-14 species of Galapagos finches
the Scarlet Robin and Pacific Robin of Australia
The London Underground mosquito
the melanistic Jaguar
Newly evolved “super-worms” (National Geographic, Oct. 7, 2008)
There is no knotted underwear here, but to say evolution is not proven is a completely false statement. All one needs is an open mind to the evidence.
My mind is open to evidence of creationism/intelligent design. I’m just waiting for something that holds up to the scientific method.
Before an all out flamewar starts on Evolution vs. Creationism, we need to define what we mean by Evolution in this context. Evolution in the terms of stronger genes surviving over weaker genes and being passed on is one thing. The theory that we evolved from monkeys is another. I agree with the former but not the latter.
Evolution vs. Creationism is the argument of the latter vs. intelligent design.
HAHAHA!
you’ve all come and visited a site about 10 arguments that cannot be won, yet you all bothering to argue about them anyway!
silly silly people!
oh but to the ‘biologist’ YES there is proof for evolution! what are you talking about?
the theory was built on evidence. darwin devised the idea BECAUSE he found evidence. and of course there is proof made via plants. i cannot remember the guy who did it. was done AGES ago… he was a christian. well. a monk. and he proved evolution via hundreds of generations of plant growth.
so there!
ok. so now i see why you all argued over these things too…
Well I know the answer to one. Did the chicken or the egg come first? Well eggs have been around since dinosaurs, and chickens haven’t
Evolution,Nurture, gun controll,no uthinasia, no death penalty,obortion should be the mothers choice,free will,relitave morals,egg,god doesn’t ezist grow up people!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like chicken nuggets.
There are two answers to the chicken and the egg - a logical one and a wiseass one.
Logical - The egg came first. There were dinosaur eggs long before there were chickens. No one said the egg in question had to be a chicken egg.
Wiseass - The chicken came first. The chicken had to get laid before the egg could.
Hahaha…
How did the first plant support itself without a cell wall?
It obviously didn’t without a complex designer… Osmosis membrane would have let too much of a concentration of water molecules inside the cell. The cell would have burst.
evidence for evolution: thousands of years of conclusive studies
evidence of the existence of God (or Jesus): nowhere
Argument solved!
I’ve noticed that this list seems to consist of items and descriptions that are focused towards a Christian American audience.
Eg. Free Will or Destiny is not a debate about whether God has seen or decided the fate of man, but rather if existence and time have a set and predetermined path versus the capability of a sentient being in changing the course of existence in time with its decision through actions.
I believe that the author could have come up with a less biased list. If we use the ideas from “Morals – Relative or Universal” we would understand that in some societies, these questions do not even come into question because the answers to them are straight forward, one sided, and undebateable. (I think that’s how you spell it…)
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The interesting thing here is not whether or not there is an answer to each of these questions, but whether or not the argument can be won. Discounting weird “the universe was created 5,000 years ago with all of the objective evidence of a 12 billion years old universe already in place” kinds of discussions, the evolution debate was over long ago. But that doesn’t mean the argument is over, because the nay sayers have a vested interest in the outcome. The nature vs. nurture debate is decidable, but is really a false dichotomy, since the real answer is nature and nurture. Gun control also has an objective answer, but it is difficult to find, and again the proponents on both sides have a vested interest. The chicken or egg problem is a semantic argument only, and the rest have large subjective components that really preclude an objective answer.
Evolution happened. Animal species have evolved over the centuries through adaptation and such.
I think that life was put down here first by God or whatever you believe and then different things evolved into what they are today.
Life had to evolve from other life. It can’t just spontaneously generate. The very first life was put down here by someone or something. Humans definatly cannot have evolved from rocks or space.
this might not get anywhere but really, email me if you want to know more or be saved or whatever.
@Gwendolyn: Evolution and adaptation are different things. Evolution is the idea that beings change based on mutations. Evolution is supposed to make something more advanced right? No mutation in history has added genetic information, therefore we must be less advanced than bacteria.
also@Gwendolyn: If you don’t believe in spontaneous generation, how did the first “cells” appear on earth? No one has made a cell out of the conditions believed to have been billions of years ago. Some scientists have made amino acids, but that is not a cell. In addition, those are just assumed conditions, not facts. Also, God created the first beings with his almighty power. If He can do anything except sin, I am sure that He can create life. We didn’t evolve from rocks or space.
@verinon: We may not be able to “prove” to you that God is real so that you believe it, however we can definitely disprove evolution.
@8rustystaples: Gregor Mendel proved that traits could be passed down through parents… This can prove adaptation, but not evolution. How could two parents create something totally different from what they had?
also@8rustystaples: The chicken and the egg debate is, in fact, related to beliefs. If you are an evolutionist, you would most likely believe that the egg came first. Most Christians belive the chicken came first. This is because God created the chicken, not the egg. All of the animals were already “hatched” so to speak.
@Tom S Fox: What do you mean Christianity vs. evolution was never an issue…?
[Question from me: Why are humans so overly dominant over the earth?] If you can give a logical answer please respond.
@Fuzzy Bunny: Good try; undebatable. ;]
I have the answer to all of the above. Life is precious because we all die, and worth living because we do not know when. Period!
All I am going to say is Y-5 cluster…….
Since my statement from last night, when i implemented that all of the above “persons” were “morons” has been removed, I find it nessecary to add a comment that is more constructive, and not anonymous.
I do not mean that you are infact dumber or less capable of making judgements than me or any other person what so ever. But the fact that this top-ten list is about arguments that “we cannot win”, it seems meaningless for anyone to start a discution on one of the subjects that the list obviusly states as “undebatable”.
And to all of you stating that “The theory of evolution” is scientificly proven, you are all very wrong. The fact that something is called a “theory” and not a “fact” should make all people with any sence of what either of these two terms mean, understand that it is not proven.
The debate someone could start here is what Fuzzy Bunny breifly touched when adressing the arguments whether morals are relative or universal. What are your moral standards, and where do they come from? Why are your moral standards more “true” than those of someone from a different culture than your own?
The chicken came first!! How else would the egg just magically take care of itself? Wherever the chicken came from…. it was first. An egg can’t hatch itself, nor take care of itself once its hatched. Half these arguments ARE winnable for the record..
To Wow`s question: Why are humans so overly dominant over the earth?
Because we(homo sapiens) are the only thinking animal(as far as we know) with the ability to reason. We are allso the only animals on planet earth with self-awareness and ability to compare ourself against other animals.
Our intelligence has allowed us to develop tools and weapons, which made us the “superior” race of animals on this planet.
We also have the power of language, and therefor communication on higher level then any other living being on this planet.
If i were to start writing about all that has happen in the last 150 years and throughout the industrial revolution, this post would never stop. But in any case, this “proves” that humans have a “grip” on this earth, like no other living creature we know of.
This is a “logical” explanation, unless of course you are a religious fanatic.
This is really sorta funny, you all come to this page “Ten Arguments That Can’t Be Won” and what do you all do start arguing about them. There is absolutely nothing that you can say that someone won’t disagree with you on here. Everyone should save their own opinions and ask themselves why their so bull headed.
The egg came first, why? Because inside that egg is about 4.3 BILLION years of evolution to make that 1 cell organism surrounded by cytoplasm and a tough outer shell. Now how can something that makes a carbon copy of itself evolve? Different conditions, that’s all. Considering all life we know of is carbon based and carbon has only 6 electrons, it will most likely chemically bond with something to create a new compound and under the right conditions, will change the attributes of a cell. Since there are more unicellular organisms than humans, we can assume that this phenomenon happens a lot. Since it happens a lot, we can also assume that the changes can can through the same method via the transitive property. This eventually leads to many variations of one’s genes since they are made up of different compounds. This is what is known as a cascade effect. Now that we have gotten that out of the way, let’s move on as a species and advance further than we are now.
well, as a muslim. I believe that God (Allah) is exist and He created all things.if u want to know more, why don’t u listen to a few lecture by dr zakir naik. so much proofs to be keep inside ur brain.
On the Galapagos island the strong turtles are eaten first (as they are the strongest to break out of their shells) and then the weak ones are the turtles that make it to the sea when the predators are full. In other words the weak survive the strong get eaton.
In the amazon rain forest they have found insects and small rodents encased in amber that could be thousands + years old. Curiously the ecosystem was exactly the same as it is today without a single change or modification.
I have a PH.D in Animal Science, believe me its a theory.
No matter how many times it is told to lay (Christian) folk it never registers. The word ‘theory’ used in general conversation has a much different meaning than a scientific theory. Think hypothesis (science usage)= theory (general English Usage). Theory (science usage) roughly equals Fact (general English). Scientist deal in degrees of certainty based on experiment, investigation and observation. Intelligent Design is not a theory (Science usage) it is a hypothesis.
Evolution is a Scientific theory which means it has passed the test and scrutiny of scientific investigation. Intelligent Design is a hypothesis, which means it has not passed the test of scientific scrutiny. It is not an alternative to Evolution as there is no way to prove or disprove the existence of the master designer!
Not Really correct
A Theory means that for all the current technology the idea seems to be correct under the currect testable conditions or evidence at the time.
A Hypothesis is an educated guess based on some past events or knowledge. Anything can be a hypothesis, it does not mean it is correct.
A Theory really cannot be proven under the currect knowledge or technology. Einsteins theory of Relativity…we are pretty darn sure that it is correct, but it cannot be universally proven.
A law is something that is universally proven, ie. the Law of Gravity, Newton’s Laws, etc…
Scientific Theory is about as good as it gets for any ideas that we have, we have tons of evidence that points us in that direction but a Law is really the only thing that can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt..
What about the question - Does this make me look fat?
You should read more carefully Travis. I said “Evolution is a Scientific theory which means it has passed the test and scrutiny of scientific investigation.” and your reply was, ” Not really.”
Further you state,” A Theory means that for all the current technology the idea seems to be correct under the currect testable conditions or evidence at the time.” And I said,”Scientist deal in degrees of certainty based on experiment, investigation and observation.” I guess you didn’t understand what ‘a degree of certainty is.’
Travis why did you bring up the definition of a law? Did I give a definition of a law in science? Let me reiterate and maybe you will read more carefully. Christian folks equate the definition of Scientific Theory with that of a Hypnosis (or confuse one for the other). Since my definition of Scientific Theory’ wasn’t incorrect, I have no idea why you state that I’m not quite correct. You are correct on expanding on my def. i.e. a theory is as good as it gets, but there are no points in which my def. contradicts yours.
Moreover there is no ‘proof’ or ABSOLUTE ‘truth’ in science. The closest we get are FACTS, which are indisputable observations from which laws are derived.However, if you define proof as arriving at a logical conclusion, based on evidence, then there is ‘proof’ in science. I don’t believe that in science to prove something means it can never be wrong.My main point, which you state as being incorrect is that hypothesis and theory are different and should not be used interchangeably i.e. calling Intelligent Design a Theory when it is in fact a Hypothesis. Also keep in mind the definition of PROOF can vary SLIGHTLY depending on your field of science.
very well constructed list, that i agree on.
but my issue is with gun control..
if guns kill people, then pencils make people stupid and spons make people obese.
Quite astute Olivia. Your reasoning is impeccable. People kill people and to say otherwise leads to absurdity upon absurdity! I will now sue Mc Donalds for making me fat. LOL The next time I cut myself while shaving, I will sue the Gillette Corp. And if my condom leaks, I will sue Trojan for child support! I can go on for those that disagree with Olivia. Dear Olivia you are one of the few sane ones left in a country slowly going mad!
ABORTIONS SHOULD BE BANNED IN EVERY COUNTRY and GOD does exist!
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Megan your powers of persuasion and reasoning acumen are truly the marvel of this blog. Further, God indeed exists, if only in your mind.
My opinions
Evolution - IMHO the other side of the debate is merely willful ignorance
Both nature and nurture play a large role in child development
For some security measures for allowing someone to buy a gun, but I’m against gun bans or any such things. People kill people. And extreme gun control will only keep law-abiding citizens unarmed
I support the right to die
Against the death penalty except in certain circumstances such as a criminal killing people from within the prison system
Abortion - I don’t like abortion but I’m leaning toward the pro-choice position
Free will isn’t so free but “fate” as in some metaphysical force is BS. Your will flows through and is thus guided and redirected that is the canal of genetics and personal experiences
I think morality is subjective with objective qualities
Egg came first
From most to least likely; atheism - deism - theism (general) - polytheism - monotheism
No mention of the biggest argument that can never be won… “Ginger or Mary Ann?”
Evolution vs Creation is obvious. Required name has it right. Only if you ignore logic, common sense and proven evidence does it then become a difficult argument.
Nature and nurture is a bit of both. It depends on the person though.
Gun Control is tough. it probably too late to strip guns from people in the US due to all the other people who own illegal guns. It’s not as bad in Australia where we’re not as gung ho.
Euthanasia - You should have the right to die. again an obvious one.
The death penalty - definitely. Mass murderers, rapist, child molesters etc. put a bullet in them so my taxes don’t go to their 40+ years rotting in prison.
Abortion. For it. For example, You would have to be a moron to allow a 13 year who has been raped to go trough with a pregnancy.
Freewill. Destiny is told about in stories and doesn’t exist.
Morals. depends. certain things aren’t right no matter what. ie child rape. Others are relative ie the multiple wives deal.
chicken or the egg. No one knows. Not worth arguing about.
Does god exist. If there is a god or god-like being in this universe it is nothing like any of them described in any religion on this planet. so for all intents and purposes, no. The idea of a God is simply stories created by ancient people to explain things, which has now evolved into the farce that it is today.
egg came first. it’s not chicken or the chicken egg.
Here’s one:
Prove that anything outside of your own mind actually exists. It’s impossible.
Everything you perceive [see, hear, smell, taste, touch] is nothing until your mind processes it. How do you know for sure it’s actually there then?
You’ll never lose this argument.
Besides you don’t have to listen to any other arguments, they’re not real either!!!
Hahahahaha!!
Matt, the ancient Greeks were way ahead of you. You’re only more than 2500 years late with your new (very old) philosophical discovery. It’s called Solipsism and the ancient Greeks were well aware of it and several variations on it. The great Socrates, teacher of Plato also mentioned it occasionally, so it would be safe to say it predated Socrates. It, Solipsism, has been around for a long, long time.
Wow I’ve never seen such a passionate response to a top ten list! The creation/evolution argument will never be won, but we’re obviously giving it a red hot go! How about this: They’re both right. We did evolve, but that’s the way God created us? I don’t think the Adam from dust and Eve from one his ribs story should be taken literally. God is obviously much more subtle than just clicking his fingers and making things happen.
RE:the chicken and the egg surely the egg must come first in the evolution of the chickens ancestor for it to become the chicken
such is the evolution of the species
Here’s the point Mike, there is a mountain of evidence supporting Evolution. There is an absence of credible, scientifically testable evidence to support the hypothesis of Intelligent Design. With that lacking, where is the evidence of a designer? Belief in God is an assertion of faith. Belief in Evolution is an assertion of scientific reasoning based on testable, quantifiable evidence not mythology, superstition and faith. Yes, this is precisely why this argument can never be won. One side draws its conclusions from logic, science and reason, the other from faith, superstition and ignorance. I will leave you with a quote by Martin Luther. (For you Christians that don’t know who Martin Luther was–look to the meaning of the word “ignorance” to define your faith.)
Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding. —Martin Luther
This is the second time the admin has censured my reply. I’m sorry did my pithy response and quote of historical figures injure your religious sense of decency. The intellectually challenged governing this blog will no doubt find my comments unpalatable. The truth cuts like a knife. Why keep up the facade of a blog dedicated toward free expression. Please remove me from your blog membership else do the right thing and post my comments unedited, as I have in no way used inappropriate language. It is my views you find inappropriate and that is something you should not censure. Or perhaps you wish to join the ranks of your peers, Hitler, Stalin, Saloth Sar, just to name a few. Keep up the good work. I’m sure they would smile and approve of your earnestness if they were still around.
NotoriousBigBrain,
We love pithy responses and I respect all opinions given on this site as long as they are given with respect. I am not intellectually challenged (although my Mom may disagree), but I do censure comments that are not written with respect to another commentor’s beliefs.
For example, I am a bit offended that you would compare me to Hitler, one of the most vile, evil people to ever live, yet I let your comment stand as is. If I edited it before I must have found it to be attacking another commentor. I stand behind my edits and hope you can appreciate my stance as the owner of the site.
Maybe you are referring to the comment you made earlier today. That was flagged by the spam software for some reason. I check the spam filter at night. I saw you comment had been caught, but that was by the spam filter, not me.
And finally, you prove my point. YOu can’t help but take a dig at those of Christian faith, but I’ll allow it because I’m assuming you are trying to be pithy. That is with a “th”.
To the Admin of this site, please accept my apology. It is now quite evident I had come to the wrong conclusion concerning your apparent censure of one of my comments. However my comparison of you to Hitler was not meant to be viewed in terms of his overall evil exploits on humanity but only the fine subset of his brutal repression of free speech and public dissent towards his policies and views.
Replying to the last paragraph of your declaration:”YOu [sic] can’t help but take a dig at those of Christian faith…” I respond, Christians tend to be an easier target on the Serengeti of the intellectual blogosphere. It is not that Muslims are generally better read and or educated than Christians (except perhaps in the comparative understanding of the Koran), they aren’t. It’s just that I don’t have to worry about a Christian tracking me down and committing holy Jihad to fulfill one of the many Fatwahs of the Ayatollah Khomeini or some other irate Imam. But fair is fair. I will leave you with a quote from the Supreme religious authority of Saudi Arabia, Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz.
“The earth is flat, and anyone who disputes this claim is an atheist who deserves to be punished.”
–Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz
Muslim religious edict
Top 10 Arguments That Can’t Be Won
Which came first– A flat Muslim Earth or a flat Christian Earth?
Muslims and Christians feel free to resort to violence if necessary to resolve this question. Either Allah or Jesus can prove which side is right.
NotoriousBigBrain - It’s all good. Keep commenting, you keep us Christians on our toes.
God created the universe via big bang everything happened and was set into motion. When a suitable environment was created (earth) he made life via cells. cells evolutionized and made animals. Evolution has to exist or how would you describe adapting to your environment which IS a type of micro evolution! People did not come from monkeys but rather evolutionized with them we both had the same environment (Africa) that’ s why we are so similar but then we mutated (by the way, that can be a good thing and it does happen to DNA,). There has to be other life somewhere (what makes you think we are God’s only children?!)
ok the egg came first, at breakfast, the chicken came second, at lunch
now, the ultimate question for anyone who has seen eddie izzards act, CAKE OR DEATH?
Ummm if we evolved from monkeys how come monkeys r still around? Also, we clearly did not jump from the monkey in one leap, but the evidence for a half-monkey, half-human creature in the middle is still missing.
The chance of a series of genetic mutation so rare to have the first cells of life eventually evolve into us are so improbable that the theory of evolution still remains, as always, a theory. If we reached this way slowly over a series of a billion years, again, where is the half-monkey half-human? WHERE is the half-dinosuar half-chicken. There are too many missing links.
But it is also obvious that many species are very similar. However, that just suggests that they have one Creator who designed them in same but different ways- not, that they happened to mutate, or “evolve” into their forms.
I like this list
Evolution arguments are great.
In any case, to ally, evolution doesn’t mean that the “base species” so to speak becomes extinct. Extinction and evolution aren’t the same. Monkeys exist the same way a wolf and a dog co-exist. It’s called mutation of a gene/DNA, not extinction.