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  • DAVE TEDDYBOY NO1

    Skinheads,the the one most important subculture. The oldest enduring (since 1969),I dont think so,the first and most important subculture is and always will be the great British Teddyboy,i dont remember ever hearing about skinheads being around in the early 50`s,the Teddyboys were,and we are still around today,wen people said being a Teddyboy was a fad they were wrong,Teds will always be around,they were here in the 50`s,they were here in the 60`s and in the 70`s and the 80`s and they are still here today,dont see many skinheads,unless you look in europe,plenty of them over there.

    It was the Teds that started it then and they are still around today,it should have been us the Teds put first,and the fighting the booze and the birds,the Teds were here first,and will be around long after the rest of thesecopycats have gone

    • Joe

      "Us the teds"? Who, you and you two friends, who happen to be the only teds in the entire world? Teds are dead, I personally have never seen one in my life. Skinheads exist in virtually every country where people have access to food haha. Yes, the racist battle has kept it alive and kept interest in it, but it's still here. Teds are dead!

      • Dave

        Hey Joe,do you get out much,or are you in prison,that must be it,or your looking in the wrong place,there are thousands of Teds still out there,you must be hiding in the door way with your eyes shut if you cant see them,you say you have never seen one in your life?,what are you two?,as a matter of fact,im glad you mentioned the entire world,because thats where we have gone,there are now Teds in every part of the world,google it,you do know how to google dont you?,there are many sites out there and we can be found,all you have to do is type in Teddyboys,its that easy,well unless your two that is,skinheads i know are not into the racist part,and if they are,why are they not fighting the enermy,i take it your English,have you not noticed the invasion by islam,and the walkinf beanbags.

        Believe me Ted aint Dead and never will beTeds will be around long after the skinhead craze has long gone,lol,it was dying back in the 70`s,and lot of skinheads were turning up to our gigs,and growing their hair so they could look as cool as us Teds,anyone can shave their hair and call themself a skinhead,but it takes dedication and the heart to be a 42/7 Ted,we are there just open your eyes and you will see us,but dont worry,we wont hurt you,we have grown up,like i said we are Teddyboys 24/7 and we live the lifestyle of the 50`s every day,we live for our music,the only music that gave the teenagers their chance to break away from what their parents were listening to,we were Englands first Teenagers.

        Trust me……………TEDS AINT DEAD,TEDS WILL LIVE FOREVER.

        Have a great weekend…………………….

        • Edwardian Sue

          That's right! Dave is right! Ted aint dead! We are all over the f'n world!

          • DAVE, TEDDYBOY NO1

            Hello Sue,so good of you to join us,we have a non believer here,dont understand it,you have a great way with words,and i agree with you 100%,with the many thousands of photo`s today,how can anyone say we dont exist.

            Teds are forever…………….

        • zoya

          hi Dave,
          this is zoya from Iran, i’m about researching subcultures which belong to Islamic country, that’s a part of my paper tho in during my roaming in the net i just saw this site and have written your reply that help me so much, via this short letter i could feel your heart and mind to adjust my mind then change it…( i’m very sorry cuz of my rudimentary English).
          Thank You
          Zoya
          Iran

  • 8-Ball Paul

    Teds Rule the Planet!!

    • DAVE, TEDDYBOY NO1

      Well said Paul,and there was me thinking i was dreaming,but off course we all know different.

      I think i can go one better than that Paul.

      Teds own the Planet,and we have filled it with pure 50`s Rock`n`Roll…..

  • Andrew R

    So many erroneous errors and omissions.

    Here are those you missed and number 1 is unforgiveable to have omitted.

    Mods (still thriving scene and probably the most far reaching influence on other cultures)
    Teddyboys
    Skinheads (sub genres inc. Trads/Trojan, Reds,SHARPS and Boneheads/Whitepower)
    Suedeheads
    Smoothies
    Rudeboys/girls
    Sharpies (Austrailian sub culture similar to Skinhead)
    Scooterboys (huge sub culture from seventies till present day)
    Rockerbilly
    Psychobilly
    Soulies
    Casuals (one of the few sub-cultures that became as clothes obsessed as Mods)

    Please note, Greasers was a nickname given to the Rockers, they are one and the same, and certainly Mod was the very antithesis of Rocker and not the Hippy, Hippies developed from the remnants of Mod/Psychedelia in the 67 -70 period, whilst at the same time some Mods who left the Stylist end of the Mod fashion behind, developed into, what for some would be the bastard offspring of Mod, the Skinhead arrived (earlier labelled by the Mod Stylists as Hard Mods), these became the scourge of many Hippies in the late sixties and early seventies.

    The above list is not complete by any means as sub-culture would include
    Metalheads
    Surfers
    Nazi Punks
    Grebos (late seventies early eighties NWOBHM fans)
    Outlaw Motorcycle clubs
    New Age
    Northern Soul sub-culture
    Rivetheads
    Skater
    ………………….and on and on!!

    The first list pretty much encompasses those sub-cultures of importance you failed to mention.

    Andrew

  • Becky

    Acually for the greasers one I find the best movie that can explain Greasers is The outsiders. Grease ws more lovey dovey then about the greasers while The Outsiders shows greasers I never reall thought about greasers in grease but I deffinatly did in The Outsiders, but thats just me personally

  • DAVE, TEDDYBOY NO1

    Firstly greasers are not Rockers,Rockers are Teds riding Brit bikes,get your facts straight,as for mods being above Teddyboys,you got to be kidding,Teds have been around since the early 50`s,mods came along in the 60`s,and mods were a bunch of pussys on electric tooth brushes,and whats with the parker with a target on your backs,like we needed a target,we got you every time,,lol………….The very first so called sub culture were the great British Teddyboys,and there are Teds not onlt in England but nearly every country in the world,some people talk a lot of crap.

    Going back to the mods,back in the 70`s not even the punks and skinheads liked them,the amount of times i saw skinheads and punks laying into a bunch of mods,then they came up against the cream off the crop,the ENGLISH TEDDYBOYS.

    This entire thread is rubbish,if it wasnt for us the Teds,there would not be any other culture out there,we have supplied the rest of the world with our own rebels,thats another thing,we cant forget the Rockabillys,i think this thread was put here to start this and its worked,but how the hell they forgot us the Teds is beyound me,in the 50`s they raised hell,and us in the 70`s we raised hell,we were the first groups and we will go on forever…………TEDDYBOYS ARE FOREVER…………………

  • matt

    I can’t believe I read this entire piece. This is so horribly written. I feel ashamed for the internet’s sake.

  • DAVE, TEDDYBOY NO1

    This is all wrong,they forgot to mention Britains own rebels the great British Teddyboys,with out the Teds there would not be any of these other groups,these other groups have a lot ot thank the Teds for…………

  • Arypsure

    well acording to the fire up here visual kai and otaku are not subcultures cause they have yet to be mentioned so whatever

  • Russell

    I hate labels by this list I’m a emo greaser grunger punk
    And metaller all together correct term metal head

  • DAVE, TEDDYBOY NO1

    It matters not what anyone says,we Teds were and are the first subculture in Briton,we always have been and always will be,and we are still out there today,in as bigger numbers than ever before,we even have Teds in other countries,mainly throughout europe………

  • Lachlan

    Mods were long gone by the time punks appeared in the streets of London around 1975.

    The first real youth culture in Britain were the Teds (Teddy Boys) who dressed in the most sartorial manner they could. Mostly remembered for their greased hair with a Tony at the front and D.A. at the back, long frock-coats with velvet collars and cuffs, shirts with wyatt earp ties, ornate waistcoats, tight drainpipe trousers and brothel-creeper crepe-soled suede shoes – and cut-throat razors. They sigued into bikers or Rockers (with caff racer motor bikes) and, for dancing, suits with short, bum-freezer jackets, drainpipes and very pointed winklepicker shoes.

    Their antithesis were small groups of young guys in London who wanted to live a sharp, stylish, even secret lifestyle – French art movies, Italian-style clothes, modern jazz (such as John Coltraine, Thelonius Monk etc), all night dancing and recreational drugs such as Benzydrene and Dexadrine etc. These Modernists began to grow in the London scene and adopted other obscure elements, such as black American soul / R&B artists still unknown to white audiences in the USA and Britain. These were the Mods and they began to grow in numbers about 1962. Also about then, their numbers grew by the appearance of suburban Mods who got around on imported Italian motor-scooters, such as Lambretta and Vespa.

    By 1963, the Mod scene grew even larger and had spread to the Home Counties and other big cities. When “Ready Steady Go !” appeared on British TV’s that year, its audience was mainly made up of Mods and music and presenters began to tailor the programmes for them. The Mod scene spread around Britain and by 1964 was in full swing. Mod clothes shops opened up and that was the year the much-publicised fights at seaside resorts hit the papers. The tabloid press had a lot to do with stirring up trouble between Mods and Rockers which had the effect of demonising Mods in the public eye. The “purist” Mods distanced themselves from the expanded Mod scene, calling themselves “Stylists” and bit by bit the Mod scene receded in the London area by 1966 and by 1969 in the other parts of Britain. The Mods in the London area were turning to more flamboyant wear, as characterised by the parody “Austin Powers” and by Twiggy etc and weren’t Mods anymore.

    The working-class Mods, who kept closer to their roots and were nicknamed “Hard Mods” were turning to Jamaican Ska more and more as well as soul, cutting their Mod hair short and wearing their archetypal Mod fashions such as three-button suits, Ben Sherman shirts, Fred Perry tennis shirts, straight Levis etc, as well as adopting new items such as work-boots (Doc Martens were popular), braces (suspenders) and Crombie coats (which the red outside breast pocket lining turned out to look like a kerchief) and continuing the Mod Jamaican pork-pie hat. The Skinheads had arrived and in those days, ’60’s to early 70’s, the Skinheads were not the racist neo-nazis of later times and easily integrated with Jamaicans etc.

    “Up North” as well as Skinheads arriving on the scene, younger brothers of ex-Mods were keeping the soul music tradition and Mod dress code alive though adapted a bit to the ’70’s with baggy trousers and they created a scene all their own, a direct Mod descendant – Northern Soul – and had all-nighter dance sessions. Their dancing tended to be more frenetic than their older Mod brothers had done and included all sorts of front and back-flips and fancy moves, hence the baggy trousers !

    But Skinheads and Northern Soul were a minority and by the mid-1970’s, there were teenagers and early 20’s all over the UK wanting a scene, bored and frustrated by the bloated self-importance of prog rock and the sillyness of glam rock and sleepfest of country music, the 3 day working week, strikes, racial tension, unemployment, power cuts and the s**t that was Seventies Britain. That’s where Malcolm McLaren, Vivienne Westwood and “Sex” the cutting-edge clothes shop claim to have stepped in. McLaren matched the clothes to a new, basic grating music style and an anti-hero band to play it – The Sex Pistols and voila, the UK Punk scene was born.

    By the end of the ’70’s, Punk had moved on a tad and become more flamboyant, the music had improved and spin-offs from the scene developed new (or resurrected) sounds, both new and re-born youth cultures appeared (eg – neo-nazi Skins, Mods, Teds, Rockers, Rockabilly, Rude-Boys, New Romantics etc) Unlike the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s where youth cultures/scene tended to come along one at a time, by 1980 not only could you hand-pick the scene you wanted, you could choose who could be your enemy to fight !).

    Me ? Well, my brother was a Mod in the mid 1960’s era and when he got a good job and progressed out of the Mod scene, I adopted the Mod scene in 1967 when I got old enough – 14 – and stayed with it till it died out by early 1969.

    I have always thought the Mod scene was the best of all of them and was the one which first gave teens a scene in the UK. Maybe I just biased.

  • Valy

    Goth was born from the Punk. Goth bands are not cradle, but are Bauhaus, Siouxsie, Cure, Joy Division, Alien Sex Fiend, Virgin Prunes, etc

    Ah… Mainstream ignorance…

    • Logan

      You mean Punk was born from Goth. Punk was made in the 1970s or 1980s Goth made in the 1700s.

  • leah

    DELETE THIS ARTICLE! this is terribly inaccurate. WTF MOD ISNT EVEN ON HERE, YET GREASERS, AND ROCKERS ARE??? I am reading a fairchild book right now, you should probably look into their books (Survey of Historic Costume fifth edition) and not just wing an article haha. Mod, hippies and punks basically started everything. I don’t even think greasers should be on here, because that really wasn’t relevant unless you wanted to base decades of revolutionary fashion off a popular fictional movie.. Rockers was merely a fad of a subculture, same with Teddy Boys and although mod lost it’s popularity towards the early 70’s, it deeply influenced many styles. In my opinion hipsters are like a reformed mod and that’s a huge trend right now, with just one of the many subcultures it influenced. And a lot of these comments were saying how punks influenced other dress which is completely true, and I’m glad to see punks on the list, as well as hippies. But really no mod? Come on. Beatles? Twiggy? No so much hippies as they were modernists… And I don’t understand the order. Emo is #2 when punks are #3, yet emo derived from punks?…… The captions really have no facts either, they appear to be ignorant thoughts. please delete this article asap.

  • Logan

    Goth is stated and also wrong. The Gothic culture was brought up somewhere in the mid to late 1700’s. Goth fashion was origionally Victorian style clothing with all black (and occasionally other dark colors). The youth of today has ruined it by mixing it (also confusing it) with Emo (Even though the subculture was just recently introduced) because of MTV and other things like that thinking they are all the same. Kids and adults need to stop mixing them up and changing the style of clothing and calling it Goth. It irritates true Goths and gives people the wrong impression about the best subculture there is (in my opinion, sense I am one).

  • Ico

    Saw no difference between glam rock and gangsta..

  • Icw

    The author of this article is misinformed with no research to show her work. Methalheads, not metallers, have been around since the 70’s. And glam rock and New Romantic are 2 entirely different subcultures.