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  1. Beteltooth at |

    This one of the best lists I’ve ever read on this site. Interesting, well informed and with a bibliography! Absolutely fantastic!

    I’m a medievalist, and have studied a lot of early post classical Germanic stuff preceding the early medieval period, but I’ve always held a fascination with pre-classical western Europe. This has certainly quenched my thirst for that for the moment.

    I can’t give enough superlatives.

    Thanks!

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  2. FMH at |

    Hmm, I would have chosen the couch from Hochdorf over the dagger itself. Maybe the hat would have been interesting too. One fact about the dagger that might be added is that it was only plated with gold for the burial. The dead person seems to have carried it during life, because the bronze sheath showed some use marks, while the gold plating was as good as new. That is the reason why there are two daggers shown in the photo: One is the real dagger, the other one is the gold plating on a fake frame.

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    1. A C Tuffey at |

      Thanks for the feedback. FMH you are of course right; i chose the dagger simply because i had decided to end on two more visibly striking artefacts. the couch may however appear in another list to do with the celts. Any more criticism is welcome as with suggestions for other artefacts to cover.

      thanks

      Adam

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      1. FMH at |

        Thanks for the answer, you’re right there.
        Another point one could make is that you mixed Hallstatt (pre-celtic) and LaTene (celtic) sites. Of course it’s nitpicking, but the funeral tradition, dressing and art style is quite different. I always thought that those eras where actually completely different cultures, especially since almost no site is used in both eras.

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        1. A C Tuffey at |

          Well Barry cunliffe in Barbarians spheres and influences tends to argue against this, im inclined to take up his arguement, that due to the pressure of germanic tribes many of the tribal centres of the hallstatt period were displaced, also the entire socio-economic structure of temperate europe changes, with the influx of prestige goods from the mediterranean, this has an effect on the culture it doesnt fundermentally change it. A good example is if the Romans forced the Britons to adopt their culture does that represent a new quasi culture of Roman-Britons (i hate this term) or are they britons who have maintained their culture and adopted some Roman aspects?

          There is also extensive evidence of re-use of sites, Vix and Zollfeld to name two. I can pull some Journal articals on this if you would like im pretty certain there are some in the Antiquity and Archaelogica Journals.

          This is quite a heated discussion in archaeology at the moment, Have you read Peter Beresford-ellis The Celtic empire? it provides good linkage between the two periods.

          Another really simple answer is most of the time H4-5 and LT1-2 often overlap.

          Doesnt really answer your question but does encourage healthy debate.

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      2. FMH at |

        Oh, and it should be “in Hesse” not “near Hesse”. Hesse is a state not a town :)

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  3. MikeS at |

    A generally great ancient Celtic pan-European artifacts list .I was glad to see more depth in the later comments as well.There is much fuss over what is ‘Celtic’ or Gallic in some spheres; a minimizing still of Celtic Britain or that they were a third force if a loose confederacy or Iron Age tribes. I agree with your (western) Hallstatt comment which shows a plasticity of Celts culture, if not the individual , thus able to merge , fight or co-exist with others, as in Iberia , Scotia minor ,Bohemia to Anatolia.Reduction to lists of ten will always leave some disappointed yet it will be noticed or perhaps challenged.Now Europe is culturally at least less divided into east and west others in East could have two claims upon this list : the raven icon helmet found in Translyvania (appearing like one on the initiation or drowing like scene on the Gundestrup Cauldron) and the La Tene style so called ‘Ragstone Head
    found at Msecke’ , Zehrovice (Bohemia) .

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  4. Alex at |

    Oh, magnificent. thank you guys!

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  5. A C Tuffey at |

    Thanks for the comments guys, especially you mike, really cogent,. Love it. Should be publishing more stuff soon now that I’ve taken a break from uni.

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